CNN Dicks Cheney with Subliminal Messages

The Drudge Retort has obtained video footage that proves the superimposition of an X mark over Vice President Cheney during a televised speech Tuesday wasn't just an innocent technical glitch by CNN, as claimed by anchor Daryn Kagan-Limbaugh.

In a story impacting hard across the conservative blogosphere, Matt Drudge reported Tuesday on a "large black 'X' repeatedly flashed over the vice president's face!"

The X, which appeared for two frames displayed over one-fifteenth of a second, turns out to be a small part of a series of extremely hard-to-detect subliminal messages lasting more than 10 minutes during the speech.

Subliminal Message about Vice President Dick Cheney

If you watch the 11-minute, 8-second video closely, you'll see that Michelle Malkin and other seasoned observers of politics were right to suspect that someone at the Communist News Network was attempting to subconsciously sway the public against the vice president.

If this kind of thing is standard practice at the network founded by patchouli-smelling medicinal hemp advocate Ted Turner, it may explain the 19 percent approval rating that Cheney currently enjoys in the polls.

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Dick Cheney before he dicks you.

This is some funny shit.

The liberal media approval rating is probably lower than Cheney's. The public is probably not surprised by these tactics.

Liberal media? HA! The media actually does a great job at being objective...they'll attack anyone who is a good target. Let us not forget the media frenzy surrounding Clinton.

Yes, indeedy. Once you know what to look for, this kind of thing is all over the librul media.

Bu the way, why does PBS hate America?

I have filed suit in Washington D.C. demanding a congressional inquiry into this travesty of justice.........JUSTICE WILL BE DONE DAMMIT!!!!

FREE DICK CHENEY!!!!!

Rex

We are linking to this post! HAHAHA!! I love it...

Hooray!

The subliminal comments were so subtle that you had to watch very closely, but the ones I was able to pick up were spot-on.

Did you notice the Elvis sneer?

I have to admit I was duped. hehe.

I agree with Bush Chenney - Clinton should of taken care of it.

Who is this man Cheney? Is he a stand up comic? He better not quit the day job.

wow, you guys are really sad.

Great post, rock on!

If you watched Cheney's eyes closely, you could see brief glimpses of his soul. Let me tell you, it was frightening.

You think Cheney has a soul?

If you watched Cheney's eyes closely, you could see brief glimpses of the souls he has stolen and eaten.

I noticed his eyes too. There were brief flashes of a look alien to the rest of his speech.

The right wing is truly desperate. here is the proof. Go back to doing what you do best: blaming others for your lot in life, and despising anyone who wasn't born wealthy. 8 years of progress down the drain with greedy assholes in charge.

Mount

I think Cheney would make an excellent Mephistopheles.

Greedy Assholes In Charge?.......when did Barney Frank get put in charge?????????

Rex

X marks the spot

i used to love dick but then i watched that subliminal message and something happened to my subconscious the tortiure, lies, and theft could never do. maybe the big master is not so wonderful after all. cnn, i'm starting to see the light. do you think i will have to run out and have lesbian sex? am i going to turn into a libril, quick, i better turn on fox. thanks rogers, you've really provided an eye opener for us.

Freeway blog yet to come:

DICK
SUCKS

If you superimpose virtual horns on Cheney's head, he actually looks like a more whole person.

I am glad that the Nazi-Fascists of the Republican Party are exposed for the war mongering war criminals they are. Lenin was right anout the evils of capitalism and its savage nature.

Capitalism = Natural savagery
Capitalism = More & More brutal wars for profits and exploitation
Capitalism = a Lying System
Capitalism = Depends on hiearchy and political suppression
Capitalism = Depends on violence and obedience to materials
Capitalism = Individuals seen as commodities and price values

America is led by evil rulers of the GOP ilk who have been committing war crimes and lying about it since the Reagan administration supportted torture and the total destruction of towns and villages in Latin America during the 1980s.

Low approvals of the president and the VP are the result of subliminal messages because who could not approve of someone who is so adept at lying, using his office to support torture and for cronyism? That the messages look like a prank and that there is no evidence that it happened before, does not mean anything. It makes perfect sense that now we have found the reason for Cheny's dismal approval numbers.

To Annie:

I highly recommend going out and having lesbian sex (just writing that is hot).

Tricky Dick is extremely transparent and still nobody calls him on it. Somebody should make a mockery of this parody.

this is the difference between republicans and democrats. Democrats are still able to find humor in the darkest moments of our nations history while the republicans take themselves much to seriously.

Somebody should make a parody of this mockery.

In spite of her politics, Michelle Malkin is a sex bomb.

The " X " is the mark of the Beast !

Satan is waiting for DICK " evil " Cheney ;o

Wow, brilliant!

No, no, no. Michelle Malkin is a sex bomb 'because' of her politics.

Well, the "X" of the "Beast" is superimposed, so what does that tell you?

It tells me that Satan did it.

For further good times at Cheney's expense"
Scenes From A Bush Thanksgiving
"Dubya pouts, Cheney scowls, no one brings pie -- and why is Rove looking at Barb that way?"
By Mark Morford
sfgate.com

"...why is Rove looking at Barb that way?"

Please don't take us there , Danno. That's a mental image I'd rather not have.

heh

Don't kid yourself, Ted Turner wasn't smelling "patchouli".

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wow! subliminal messages from Bob Avakian erase any political damage that Bush and Cheyney have caused for themselves! Holy shit!!

Um, yea, Bob Avakian sucks, but I frequently agree with some of his main points, especially if they involve Cheyney being an ASSHAT.

Even if asshat is a bit too polite considering who we are talking about here...

I would like to have my way with Michelle Malkin and give her a nice loving crack on the ass.

Wasn't in the BUSH Campaign in 2000, who developed a commercial where they showed Al Gore's image....and placed Bureacrat over his face....but when it was slowed down, RAT was all it shown for a split second.

Gee, I could have been POSITIVE that Bush and Company did that.

The "Mouth of the South" puts his money where his mouth is. Didn't he give a billion dollars to the U.N?

I'd be gay too if my dad was Dick Cheney.

The "X" is something used by a computer to mark a space where one visual element is to segue into another, and is normally not seen by a viewer.

Subliminal messages? Kinda like giving a speech in front of a giant banner that reads "Mission Accomplished", huh?

First of all, the numbskulls who've done it don't know the first thing about the subject. In order to work, the subliminal messages must be in present tens with no detached negatives and no question marks. The sub-conscience accepts only messages in present tense and no separate negatives. Example: "you will not smoke anymore" is a wrong message. While: "you are a nonsmoker" is a right one.
Even though transmitting of subliminal messages is not against the law, it is considered unethical and is a reason for not renewing the SNN's license. Let's see if FCC will treat it as harshly as the "wardrobe malfunction" of Janet Jackson.
Michael

I have seen some good videos that prove 9/11 was an inside job, ie., th e 2 planes that hit the twin towers were US military planes. we have all been tricked into this war, and binladen is still free. why? they helped him leave the country. omg.

I can't believe this CNN PIECE OF CRAP PEOPLE have the guts to do such a thing and then they srach their heads asking WHY!!! Fox News is kicking their behinds!

First off, this obviously wasn't a subliminal message. Anyone who actually thinks that must either be an idiot, or have a mental disorder. Conservatives are just falling in line with their party because their grasping at straws to pull themselves out of the grave they've dug. The FCC doesn't do anything about subliminal messages anyway. That's because they're everywhere in corporate advertising and the FCC is a corporate puppet.

Here is my vision - Plamegate causes Dick to "retire for health reasons" allowing Dubyah to appoint his daddy (#41) as the new VP to 'help his poll numbers which by then will be in the teens' but the stated reason will be something alone the lines of restoring (fill in the blank) to the VP's office. Bush #41 can do this without constitutional problems because he was only a 1 timer, health problems are not a problem becuase historically a VP only attends state funerals and such.

Next year when we take back both the Senate & House we start the Impeachment proceedings (the bar was set pretty low by the repuglicans over a blow job) against Dubyah. George W understands after the congress files the articles of impeachment he is toast, so like tricky Dick Nixon, Dubyah becomes the 2nd Republican president to resign.

We now have Bush #41 as the new President with a bit less than 2 years left. Who does he select as his VP, the person who will be critical in his administration? Elvis !! Bill Clinton.

America ends up with Bush #41 as President and Elvis as VP.

I'm going to pee my pants.

Pssst. 42 years ago yesterday JFK was killed. Did anyone remember??? I'm getting old.

The only reason Fox's ratings are so high is because of the "Howard Stern Effect". That is, even people who hate Fox News tune in to see what lies they will spread next. It doesn't work the other way though, because Fox News' conservative base doesn't want to listen to truth. They just want to wrap themselves so tight in the American flag that they're blind to what's right in front of them.

i thought it was pretty clear that CNN was trying slyly to tell us who MR. X is in the Plame case.

Cheney is just another Hitler and the neocons swatsika is an "X" sign. So, the right wingers are pissed that CNN exposed their totalitarian sign and symbol.

Right wingers and the Republicans are war criminals and all of them should be on trial at the Hague. America should be asking about Cheney's war crimes trial at the Hague and what time is CNN going to air it so all of America can see the Bush administration under international arrest and handcuffs.

The criminals in the Bush administration are trying to destroy the United Nations so they can be free of any international sanction which could ever lawfully question the criminal actions of America. The UN system of collective security was put in place following World War II in hopes of preventing more like wars, but the war in Iraq all but ended the collective security approach where one nation wages pre-emptive wars on other nations without proof of imminent threat, which is the legal threshold unlike the lies of gathering threat which is quite subjective and ambiguous and not precise or clear. There was no proof that Saddam Hussein was a threat under any credible rationale, even if he did have WMD. The Soviet Union of the Cold War years going by the logic of the USA met all the Bush administration's criteria to wage war, yet America never waged a direct military confrontation with them. The reasons and excuses of the Bush administration are deplorable and despicable.

The "X" on Cheney's head seen on CNN, is refreshing and just illustrative of the Nazi-Fascist, Hitler loving GOP Republican led nation that America is under the Bush-Cheney regime.

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given CIA subsidies to build a far-right-wing power base in the U.S. These Nazis assumed prominent positions in the Republican Party's "ethnic outreach committees." Simpson documents the fact that these Nazis did not come to America as individuals but as part of organized groups with fascist political agendas. The Nazi agenda did not die along with Adolf Hitler. It moved to America (or a part of it did) and joined the far right of the Republican Party.

1.Radi Slavoff, GOP Heritage Council's executive director, and head of "Bulgarians for Bush." Slavoff was a member of a Bulgarian fascist group, and he put together an event in Washington honoring Holocaust denier, Austin App.

2.Florian Galdau, director of GOP outreach efforts among Romanians, and head of "Romanians for Bush." Galdau was once an Iron Guard recruiter, and he defended convicted Nazi war criminal Valerian Trifa.

3.Nicholas Nazarenko, leader of a Cossack GOP ethnic unit. Nazarenko was an ex-Waffen SS officer.

4.Method Balco, GOP activist. Balco organized yearly memorials for a Nazi puppet regime.

5.Walter Melianovich, head of the GOP's Byelorussian unit. Melianovich worked closely with many Nazi groups.

6.Bohdan Fedorak, leader of "Ukrainians for Bush." Fedorak headed a Nazi group involved in anti-Jewish wartime pogroms.

Free Dick?

That sounds great.

--E --E & iiiiiii

I always get this confused:

Is Cheney George's Dick

or

is George Cheney's Bush?

One's president. One's vice-president. Put them together, a Dick and a Bush, and all you end up with is a royal screwing.

Rogers says, "The X, which appeared for two frames displayed over one-fifteenth of a second, turns out to be a small part of a series of extremely hard-to-detect subliminal messages lasting more than 10 minutes during the speech."

This is what amazes me about the Left: the apparent need to invent scenerios which are then used as some sort of "fact" in reviling a political opponent. Indeed, the mountain of virtual lies build out of molehill issues (like this one) are becoming an albatross around the neck of the People's Progressive Party.

The "X" in this case marks the spot where a tape edit should, or would have occured if there hadn't been some negligence displayed. Whether this "negligence" was purposeful, or not, CNN must bear the responsibility for it -- NOT CHENEY!

Your effort to virtually deny the error, and to spin it 180 degrees around to use it to vilify and dehumanize Cheney is . . .

...well, just despicable! What kind of partisan hack are you...?

Certainly, not normally this stupid, I would hope.

Damn, that video clip is funny as hell!!!
Square on target too. NICE WORK.
Pity we can't have publicly-driven input like that ALL THE TIME. :^)

Sweet Jesus! I played it backwards and I could hear someone say: "Bush is not Hitler, but Cheney is Satan". It's a conspiracy I tell ya.

The Patriot1 avows, "Sweet Jesus! I played it backwards and I could hear someone say: "Bush is not Hitler, but Cheney is Satan". It's a conspiracy I tell ya."

This is an interesting observation: that Bush is identified as "Hitler" (despite your humorous denial) and that Cheney is "Satan." Who does so?

The Left, of course, since Bush, the administration, Republicans and "neocon" are equated with fascism, nazis, etc., by them. Of course, the Left also calls all of them "evil," too, and the make-believe-religionists in the PPP (People's Progressive Party) call Bush and Cheney, Rove and others, "Satan."

But, it has a familiar ring to it -- all the invective referencing WWII criminality, evilness and "Satan" are also the words issuing from the mouths of the terrorists -- the Islamic Jihadists...

Politics breeds strange bedfellows, doesn't it? In this great day and age, the PPP is saying the same thing the Islamic fundamentalist fascists are saying...

With the cooperation of you virtual traitors, Islam will be the mandatory religion of the US and the PPP will be the only party allowed, here...you and your friends in the CIA and the ME...

where are all the big fuck yous? i thought libs were supposed to be hateful and angry. come on guys , don't let all those grey colored beefy republican macho happening dudes get away w/ the rovian spin of having there super duper secret bingo outing of cnn.. wait.. . oh i'm getting confused, must be all the incense. think i'll go cash my welfare check and have some more lesbian sex.
michelle who?

No anger, just a lot of laughter.

I work in high end A/V compression and professional encoding of audio and video.

And that's photoshop 101.

And yes, I've looked at the video.

Lighten up, unwitting traitor.

Bush is obviously not Hitler. But people will be wishing we'd had Hitler as president instead of Bush after all the screwups he's made in Iraq which may allow your dream of an American "Islamic fundamentalist fascist" republic to come true after all. If you could think straight you'd demand exacting competency instead of rationalizing self-delusional buffoonery.

FREELY DICK CHENEY!

This is what amazes me about the Left: the apparent need to invent scenerios which are then used as some sort of "fact" in reviling a political opponent. Indeed, the mountain of virtual lies build out of molehill issues (like this one) are becoming an albatross around the neck of the People's Progressive Party.

The "X" in this case marks the spot where a tape edit should, or would have occured if there hadn't been some negligence displayed. Whether this "negligence" was purposeful, or not, CNN must bear the responsibility for it -- NOT CHENEY!

Why does anyone have to bear responsibility for a technical error? It seems to me that it is the Right which is building the "mountain" out of the proverbial "molehill". It was a technical glitch, and they apologized, enough said. It certainly doesn't compare to when Fox News published and broadcast fake quotes attributed to John Kerry during an election campaign.
www.foxnews.com

Why would CNN intentionally put themselves in this position for a Vice President with a 19% approval rating (or should i say 81% disapproval?)

Face it, your party has blown every opportunity they've been handed over the last 5 years. You have complete control over the government and all you can do is whine about liberals. The only things they've managed to accomplish are letting two magnificent buildings be destroyed, 5000+ Americans die, and waste $300 billion dollars of OUR money. Wake up.

Keep Elvis out of this.

Go, Annie.

Somebody should investigate that Amerikan guy.

Patriot maunders, "Bush is obviously not Hitler..."

Duh! Then, having your powers of observation tested to their limits you say:

"... But people will be wishing we'd had Hitler as president instead of Bush after all the screwups he's made in Iraq..."

Oh? So, he is worse than Hitler, then? Is that worse than being a Jew who drinks the blood of sweet German babies in their "evil" ceremonies?

"... which may allow your dream of an American "Islamic fundamentalist fascist" republic to come true after all."

My dream? No, Mr. Non-observant, it is the dream of the Islamic fundamentalists and terrorists, but that fact gets the PPP twist so that your party's support of the terrorists can be avoided. You don't want the public to realize that you and the terrorists are saying exactly the same thing...that the PPP and the terrorists have a common goal -- the complete demonization of Bush, this administration and the United States. None of you care one whit about the United States, unless your PPP is the party in power.

" If you could think straight you'd demand exacting competency instead of rationalizing self-delusional buffoonery."

If you were kluge, you wouldn't be imitating Joseph Goebbels and telling Big Lies for the glory of your PPP...

Unfortunately, it's our children and our grandchidren who will have to pay the bill for the Bush-Cheney fiasco in Iraq, and the massive transfer of wealth to the rich in the U.S.

I've been XXX'd!!!

Duckett asks, "Why does anyone have to bear responsibility for a technical error?"

I really have to laugh at this! Here you are responding in a thread designed to spin the "responsibility" onto Cheney! Rogers wants Cheney's image to be remembered with an "Asshat" in front of it, instead of a simple "X"...or are you so partisanly blind that you can't see that...?

Then, after you ask your inane "question," you try to make Fox bear some "reponsibility" for the "mistake" they made; while you excuse CNN with your specious "question" over theirs...

Don't any of you all bother to think, at all...?

Your partisan hatred and efforts at dehumanization are obvious and DO resemble the fascist propaganda the nazis used, when you attempt to revile Bush, et al. In other words, your party's obsessive efforts at projection are becoming very, very apparent. Can you spell neurosis?

Right Wing Conspiracy Theorists strike again. It's all a conspiracy. Just like Diebold voting machines that have no paper ballots or verifiable audit trail.

Doesn't any body realize it was a Republican plant at CNN who did this? You don't need the FBI to figure this out, people.

These kind of Repub. shennanigans have been going on since Nixon's day, at least. They do stufff like this all the time, then they twist things around and accuse the Dems of doing the very things they (the Rep's) do.

when are the American people going to wake up? We need to take this country back for the REAL people, away from the fake plasic people like Cheney, & Co.

You just know the Reps have spies and plants everywhere. You can take that to the bank. Oh, wait a minute, "they" already did.

You wanna talk about offshore banking. I'll bet Cheney's got his retirement plan well secured. I'll bet ya anything he's gonna be cryogenically frozen, just like Walt Disney, so then he can come back and take over the government again. We GOTTA do something about this.

Canof says, "Right Wing Conspiracy Theorists strike again."

What a funny guy! Your own "conspiracy" effort to make Republicans out to be "right wing conspiracy theorists," is more than just obvious!

Then, of course, some PPP dupe posts this to demonstrate where the real "conspiracy theorists" reside:

Rab42 moans:

"Doesn't any body realize it was a Republican plant at CNN who did this? You don't need the FBI to figure this out, people. These kind of Repub. shennanigans have been going on since Nixon's day, at least. They do stufff like this all the time, then they twist things around and accuse the Dems of doing the very things they (the Rep's) do."

You guys are none too swift, that's for sure!

Oh boo freakin' hoo. So Darth Cheney had a few "X's" over his face during his speech filled with lies and propaganda. Heck, all Cheney can spew out now is the same rhetoric over and over again...

Our nation's once great World credibility has now been flushed right down the crapper with Bush and Cheney at the helm.

Clinton got impeached for getting a BJ. What does Bush have to do to get impeached??? Start another atrocious war based on lies? No my friends, the answer is simple: He needs to get a BJ in the oval office. Then, and only then, will he be impeached!

All of you right wingers should be ashamed of yourselves for supporting these war mongering, self-righteous, sons of bitches.

Kanye West had it half right. George Bush doesn't care about you. That is unless you are rich...

Yo regurgitates another PPP Lie! "Clinton got impeached for getting a BJ."

As long as you callow dummies continue to lie about your politics, you will continue to lose. That is so because how can the United States trust its security and well being to stupid jerks like this? And, the PPP is filled to the 'neck' with you all!

How many honest Democrats (a term which is becoming an oxymoron) will post behind this one and say: No, Clinton was impeached for perjury, and you are just hurting our beloved party by continuing to lie about it like this?

There isn't even one honest Democrat who posts to this forum -- you've all become PPP members...

From what I've read sublimal messeges don't work.
I have unscientific proof of this. I already hated him but don't hate him even more.
Bloody PNAC imperialist

I don't know how I could detest neocons more! They've ruined the US; our reputation around the world is in the toilet; church ladies are now in charge of the morality of the nation; the deficit is through the roof and what do neocons do! They lie! They can't see truth any more than the most radical terrorists on this planet. They are the Taliban of the US! They need to be destroyed decisively and completely!

Don's conspiracy theory, "They (neocons) are the Taliban of the US! They need to be destroyed decisively and completely!"

Yes, indeed, destroy Americans and not the terrorists in the ME -- let them be and withdraw our evil troops (those imperialist dogs the neocons have sent there) from Iraq...

You People's Progressive Party members are so very understanding and gentle, peace-loving and sympathetic. I'm sure that Rogers is proud to have your collective support in vilifying and dehumanizing your political opponents -- the evil, fascist, nazi, imperialistic neocons...

God, you guys are dummies of the first order!

In a country that has been driven to the far right, every thinking person is part of the "left".

Hey Tadowe, perhaps that one honest Democrat isn't posting today. Nyaaa...

Tadowe, you are precisely the type of person I'm talking about. You have some nerve talking about conspiracies! You morons invented conspiracy! Everything that doesn't fit your warped idea of truth is a conspiracy to you.

If you believe that the idiot in the White House has helped the US accomplish anything positive, I'd like to hear it! I'll be you've never traveled outside the country to know how much the good reputation of the US by this current administration. I love this country and you are destroying it!

Don't also think for moment that people who think as I do are pushovers for you diatribe. As a liberal, I am anything but "very understanding and gentle, peace-loving and sympathetic" to people like you.

I was going to compare Cheney to "He who must not be named.", but it would be a gross insult to Voltemort.

.

Why don't we keep God out of this? The dummies are in the White House.

I can't believe how many idiots think this post is anything but a joke.
It's asstounding how seriously an asshat like TADOWE takes this.
Talk about a dummie.

Get this man his umbrella, Batmnan is on the way

As a committed left-winger, I hate to see public discussions like this degenerate into name-calling sessions. Wouldn't it be more productive to focus our attention on the vultures in the White House, and what we can do to stop them them from feeding on the carcass of our Democracy?

Does anybody else see the contradiction in 'Wild's post? Some people have no consciousness of their speech. Then on the other hand we have those who want to deprive dissenters of their free speech. Guess which is which?

And that's photoshop 101.

Actually, Windows Movie Maker.

I'm going to start a club called "patchouli-smelling hemp advocates". No Republicans need apply (like you would want to anyway).

To Mr. Douglas Wray: for a minute I thought you said, "Pity we can't have 'publicity'-driven input like this.

That would be too funny.

I wrote an answer last night: "I can't believe this CNN PIECE OF CRAP PEOPLE have the guts to do such a thing and then they srach their heads asking WHY!!! Fox News is kicking their behinds!" and signed by THEPATRIOT1 then some PIECE OF CRAP - NO GUTS - NO BRAIN COWARD wrote 2-3 other comments and signed with my name, THAT will tell you there is lost of trash rinning around trying to change the truth and that is YES there is a conspiracy. PS.- CNN today is not the one we all knew but just a bunch of CRAPS trying to get attention because FOX NEWS is #1

no one needs a subliminal message to know that cheney is a lying reptilian chicken shit coward
he shows the world that everytime he open his mouth
i feel sorry for the USA
spiralling into dispair by the gang of profiteers and the ignorant masses that put them there

I notice Liv left out the 'medicinal' part of 'medicinal hemp'. But hemp is the non-psychoactive form of marijuana, FYI. But in her condition, she probably doesn't care anyway.

Don goes goebbelsesque, "Tadowe, you are precisely the type of person I'm talking about..."

I'm proud to be a target for your efforts to dehumanize your political opponents, but you will never understand that. I'm proud to be a stalking horse to reveal the lack of humanity you are willing to demonstrate for your political ideology.

"If you believe that the idiot in the White House has helped the US accomplish anything positive, I'd like to hear it!"

You must think that two fledgling democracies in the ME is something "evil," don't you? Fighting back against terrorism and Islamic fascism is somehow "bad," right? Having Libya free of WMD (nuclear) is an unfortunate consequence of the "evil" neocons' actions, right? Reduced prescription costs for seniors is a vicious neocon plot, isn't it?

Oh, that's right! It is Congress that does those things -- not the president! That means that our Congress is "evil" and out to ruin our country...all on purpose as part of a vast rightwing conspiracy (Hillarious Clinton proposed)...correct?

"I'll be you've never traveled outside the country to know how much the good reputation of the US by this current administration. I love this country and you are destroying it!"

The Leftwing is highlighting the "news" that US troops are "evil" torturers and murderers (killing innocent communist Italians.) It is the Leftwing that is calling the president of the US a "liar" a "manipulator," a "plotter" and a "conspiracist," and broadcasting that image to the world. It is the Democrats who are attempting to disgrace half the nation (Republicans) by calling them names (see above for some examples) and broadcasting that image to the world...

Now, here you are selling the same crap but making it out that it is really the neocons who are calling themselve's "evil," and etc., and broadcasting that image of themself to the world...

What a stupid jerk you make of yourself in your partisan hatred and bitterness!

"Don't also think for moment that people who think as I do are pushovers for you diatribe. As a liberal, I am anything but "very understanding and gentle, peace-loving and sympathetic" to people like you."

What a laugh! You are all stupid PUSHOVERS of your party propaganda, and with Rogers near innane efforts to join-in the ganglike effort to beat non-gang members over the head with their shouts and expostulations...

What a disgusting flock of baaaing sheep you appear!

This whole thread is proof positive that subliminal suggestion does work, because all you people don't even realize you are trapped in a Matrix-world, spun by the spin-meisters. It's already happened, brothers and sisters.

What will We who know have to do to wake you robots up, make you shake the "Cheney" dust from your eyes, and come to Mama's Reality kitchen for a heaping helping of some good ole-fashioned "Truth' cookies.

Duh (how appropriate can you get?!?) says, "It's asstounding how seriously an asshat like TADOWE takes this. Talk about a dummie."

Next someone will follow-up with the traditional, "Where's your sense of humor?" or some other silly effort to misdirect.

Now, once again, the Left can't answer on point but must practice their paleoliberal effort to single out a target and use them to avoid any need for reasonable discussion; even if with insults.

So, this genius gets serious about the "humor" he claims is inherent in Rogers' effort to make Cheney an "Asshat" rather than a victim of some "mistake"...

One which no one has ever seen happen on CNN or any other television network!!!

A "simple" mistake which the "control room" managed to see and "laugh about." Now it is just an innocent "mistake" and it is all the fault of the "evil" neocons, Cheney, Republicans and this entire administration and half the population of the US who support them...who are into some vast conspiracy to "ruin this country"...

Talk about stupid and up they pop...

I'm pissed!

An all this time I thought it was Cheney's dishonest nature, easily refuted opinions and generally unpleasant demeanor that caused me to dislike him.

Well now I know the TRUTH --- IT WAS THE X!!!

Mama says, "What will We who know have to do to wake you robots up, make you shake the "Cheney" dust from your eyes, and come to Mama's Reality kitchen for a heaping helping of some good ole-fashioned "Truth' cookies."

I think it would actually be talking about the issues rather than practicing the propagandistic "Big Lie" theory of politics; e.g., saying that WMD was a "lie," or that neocons are out to "ruin this country," or that Republicans/Bush/et all represent "evil."

...or maundering on-and-on about Republicans being dupes to neocons, when it is your party (PPP) membership who are repeating these emotionally neurotic claims and supporting "Big Lies;" e.g., Clinton was impeached for a blowjob...

Why don't you attempt to explain the details of what the Right has been duped about...?

WMD is a lie?

Saddam wasn't a bad guy, a genocidal tyrant?

The country's economy has been ruined by seniors getting prescription help?

Elucidate rather than attempting stupid "jokes" about how "mama" knows best...

If you count the number and frequency of Cheney's eye blinks, you will see that he's blinking in a modified Morse Code. It's encrypted, so it's very hard to decipher, but we're working on it.

No spaghetti for you, Tadowe.

Trevor demonstrates, "Well now I know the TRUTH --- IT WAS THE X!!!"

This is a "joke," of course. I get it, and even though it isn't funny but just another stupid attempt to defame and vilify...and which the Rightwing shows no sense of humor over.

This the the People's Progressive Party's idea of what the term "discussion" means -- always argue ad hominem and always misdirect by claiming a "joke" or make your correspondent into some example of the "evil" you are actually trying to project -- not "joke."

Discussion and reason are apparently very "foreign" to the Left because you can't find it anywhere! Go ahead -- name one internet blog from the Left that actually discusses these "issues" reasonably -- I dare you...

To answer your question Tadowe, this blog does, by default, because you are always here to be the gadfly.

It prob was a glitch.
Why would they even dare to do that, look what the administration did to CBS and Dan Rather.
It is kind of funny tho, it's a rminder to keep your kids away from the creepy man on tv that looks and says eveil things!

Mama "jokes," "No spaghetti for you, Tadowe."

An example of child psychology: ask for reasonable discussion and get a "joke."

Who needs your mushy "spaghetti" Mom?

All you liberals are the same.

Philo claims, "To answer your question Tadowe, this blog does, by default, because you are always here to be the gadfly."

Oh? Which post are you referring to that is a reasonable discussion of CNN's mistake...?

I love how the neo-conservatives can find fault and blame in anything BUT this administration. They back peddle only when the TRUTH is so obviously in their faces and even then they'll only blame someone else or admit to be only partially wrong. Sure everyone else is wrong and you guys are right.

Cheney for instance. Our country has been hijacked by corporate greed. The guy is a fucking war monger, and everyone knows the only reason this war is going on an on is to make him an his corporate buddies richer. All this bullshit rhetoric about terrorism is a pure scare tatic to sell it. This whole adminstrations complete an utter bungle of a unjust war in Iraq (we should have got the job done in Afganistan and then been done with it) has made the world a really unsafe place.

Also the whole religion- morality play is a complete farce as well. I think the neo con's are just as bad as christian extremists as the islamic extremists. Get rid of religion and the world would be a better place for it.

I digress though. Bush and his little cabal's day's are numbered. They can try an bully all they want but even bullies get their asses whipped eventually. This time it's with the ultimate weapon- THE TRUTH! And you know what? All the fuckwad fair weather neo cons will go back in their fucking closets because their team lost. The world will be a better place and the landscape will be put in place so no fascists can run away with power again like this administration.

That does it, Tad. No manicotti, either...And NO tiramisu.

You are done, buster!

that's nice, tadowe, time for your meds again now.

Tadowe wants some reasonable discussion. Isn't this issue about played out? Time for the hyenas to start tearing each other apart. Unsheath your fangs, Tadowe.

What I find interesting is that these useless, whiny libs constantly preach open-mindedness and tolerance, whether to assuage their own fragile egos or their delusional sense of self-serving victimization, while at the same time acting like tyrannical propaganda-pushers when it comes to anyone they disagree with (ie CNN, NY Times, etc). The phrase "immature hypocrites" comes to mind, but that would give hypocrites a bad name. Haven't you losers figured out that you lost the last election because most people are sick of hearing childish insults and simple-minded slogans. Grow up, you bitter losers, get over whatever perceived persecution you had in the past, and act like true liberals. Remember what that's like? Debate based on facts, looking at both sides of an issue, and leaving hysterical, emotional whining back with your Girl Scout days.

To answer Tadowe:

I'm saying that with your relentless scrutiny of every jot and tittle in every post, the readers of this blog can be assured that a counter point to every misapplied or misstated assertion will be corrected, or at least pointed out.

I hate to say it, But Tadowe functions as the 'right-leaning crypto-libertarian' conscience of this blog, sort of like an evil stepmother.

If Tadowe is the "evil stepmother", then the left-leaning mouthpieces on this blog are the spoiled, bratty, children of the family. Oh, by the way Tadowe, most doctors (real ones, with MD's) that I know are not self-important, pseudointellectuals, like the ones at this blog.

We don't need an evil stepmother to point out that Dr. Philo just misspoke: a counter point will be "corrected"?

On second thought, he might have a point.

Hey Tadowe,

OK, I haven't read every word on this thread, but I haven't seen any evidence one way or another about who actually inserted the X's into the video.

Nor that the X's were really in the source video from CNN and not inserted afterwards.

But even making the leap that this did happen at CNN and not after the fact it is equally reasonable to think that right-wing staff at CNN planted the X's to give the wing-nuts something to rant about, as it is to think that this was a plot on the part of stupid, propogandistic, emotionally neurotic liberals to pollute our precious cerebral fluid.

Ironically, Chris Ibsen's post reads like an ironic morality play--he's showing us by example what not to do.

His argument might have some force, if he mentioned some substantive examples of the chicanery he deplores.

For a minute, when I read Essephreaks comment, I thought the Pharisees had invaded this blog, but then I realized that it was more of the same old same old.

I'd like to know how a hottie like Michelle Malkin got to be such a ferocious attack dog for the right. Her speaking out in defense of internment camps for the Nisei in World War II is mind-boggling.

And here I thought it was just

Free dick!

like a spam.

Guy, you have a great talent for comedy. Don't waste yourself on this sleazy blog. Big things are waiting for you.

Hahahahaha!

Maybe Essephreak should read the whole thread, to get an idea of the evolution of this discussion. Some people may take it too seriously.

Hey Cheko,

Unless you've lived under a rock (which most neo cons do) for 5 years, what more proof do you need? It's nothing new, I'm not bringing up *GASP* some new argument or attack on the neo cons. It's WELL documented they're the most secretive administration this country has ever had. They refuse partisan investigation (Oh yeah I forgot it make more sense for bad republicans to investigate more bad republicans- that's like a a bunch of murderers seving on a jury for a murderer), they refuse to cooperate on any level.

Oh an by the way I don't think conservative is a bad word...I call them what they are: Fascists. Also calling liberals "liberal" like it's some Karl Rove spun bad term or insult is really funny. Most of us liberals love it that you call being open minded wrong. I guess purposely underfunding public programs so they're doomed to fail and then privatizing it to you're rich buddies to fuck up even more and make a huge profit at the tax payers expense is a good practice. NOT! I guess global warming sounds better if you spin it Climate change and pretend it's not happening. Nope! Need I go on? Do I need to spend my entire thanksgiving pulling sources off the net so you won't be blind? Does it matter? You'll only claim it not to be the truth and that we're out to get your party. Keep denying it.....it's the only option you have in the stack of lies in front of you.

Get over yourselves your little regime is done. BTW I'm not a democrat either.. I'm independant.

C.

Joblo's comment could be interpreted as a threat to the Vice-President of the United States. The thread started with a video clip of Cheney as the subject. Joblo should retract his statement.

tadowe, i am particularly impressed w/the use of bold in your script. w/out it i don't think i could fully comprehend the venom spewing. seriously, the absurdity of serious debate around the offense of the right wolves and our inability to take this seriously,well, you are fodder for our comic release and for this i am thankful on this day. but, i digress

ladoc, so pleased you've come to big t's rescue

"most people are sick of hearing childish insults and simple-minded slogans. Grow up,"

hmm, interesting observation from a poster who calls us; useless, whiny,fragile,delusional,victims,tyrannical,hypocrites,losers,childish,simpleminded,bitter,hysterica l,whining,spoiled,bratty, and immature!

you are what you eat!! i am starting to see the light, your slogans are so mature! have you ever tried chammomile tea? might calm the nerves. relax , we won't be telling you where we discuss serious issues! we don't want you there, back to the fun and games, all this thread is good for.

dick cheney made over 300,000,000 dollars from his work with haliburton in one year....

trust me,he is a crook.
he was convicted twice of drinking and driving and infact he will go down in history as a black spot...

speaking of history: it teaches us one thing -
bad government fails badly....

these people are the worst at what they do....

you really can not defend them on any level.

tadowe | 2005-11-24 10:28 AM
Dude. Hold up a mirror when you say that.

Why do I always feel like I've stepped into a Marx Bros.' movie when I visit this blog?

I didn't realize till I re-read his post, that a 'Free Thinker' is a genius. Except, I think he's mistaken about Bush #41 as President and Elvis as Vice President.

It's the other way around, duh.

TADOWE,
Anal retention a problem? ROTFL!!

A hint: I'm a non-partisan smartass.
But I do expect competency from those in power. I voted for Bush while having, in retrospect, too much wishful thinking. Well what a clusterfuck that administration's turned out to be! You should be throwing all your emotional energy into getting these guys to do their jobs instead of mentally defending yourself against the apparent collapse of their self-serving political machine.

I'm off to enjoy Thanksgiving dinner at my conservative fundie in-laws house. But being sane, neither of us will discuss politics.

did anyone else realise that RICHARD and DICK are the same person. And no, RICHARD, er, DICK, the librul media's approval rating couldn't possibly be lower than yours. Now fuck off RICHARD.

Hey, I've got a question for all you right-wing cowards. Where can a guy find some liberal media? I've been looking all over the place but can' seem to find any through all this corporate "buy now for the holidays" stuff. Go on and piss and moan about that soulless coward, Cheney. He'll be gone inside six months and Condo-liar Rice will replace him. You guys are pathetic.

I can't tell who the really real patriot is, but I'm throwing all my energy into trying to find a suitable mate. I thought I might find a like-minded soul at this radical blog, but I don't know...the guys here seem pretty intense.

Question for Bill Davis:

Why do you think you've got an audience of "right-wing cowards" at this "radical" blog?

Where does a guy called "Bill Davis" (like we really believe that) get off on spewing bile about corporate anything?

But you're right about Cheney and Rice, I'll give you that.

If you want liberal media, dud, this is it.

Look, Chris Ibsen, you can spend the rest of your life " pulling sources off the internet" for all I care. You didn't get the message, buddy. I'm on your side. I won't belabor the issue of you misquoting me, but I'll guarantee you that I'm greener than you, and "lefter" then you, bud, any day of the week.

Dick Cheney is evil incarnate, it showed blatantly in that video, if you were paying attention. And I agree with those people who said it's all in the eyes: it is, it is.

I think you're pulling something besides sources, too.

After I let all of you know that there was a COWARD posting comments with my name "PATRIOT1" then this COWARD cameback and left another comment but signed as THEREALLYREALPATRIOT1 this piece of crap people can't even comeup with a name but now all know about it to say the least -

100% ALL THE WAY "but": There is no other person in this land who support 100% this Administration but sometimes is hard to keep up with some facts like the one I find out last night, a REAL CONSPIRACY, link: www.metacafe.com but beware of what you are about to see because I haven't been able to sleep sience I found it.

Essephreak says, "OK, I haven't read every word on this thread, but I haven't seen any evidence one way or another about who actually inserted the X's into the video."

Yeah, although the Left already has one of their "jokes" posted indicating that it was probably done by Republicans who are "after" the MSM, or something just as stupid.

"Nor that the X's were really in the source video from CNN and not inserted afterwards."

I'm not sure I understand? The president of CNN has already admitted the "mistake," so I'm confused by your effort to say otherwise? It was CNN's fault, and certainly not Cheney's or the administration's.

"But even making the leap that this did happen at CNN and not after the fact it is equally reasonable to think that right-wing staff at CNN planted the X's to give the wing-nuts something to rant about, as it is to think that this was a plot on the part of stupid, propogandistic, emotionally neurotic liberals to pollute our precious cerebral fluid."

Oh! It was you, then...

Pretty stupid and just the kind of idiotic conspiracy theory your friends, here on the Left, are accusing the Republicans of doing!

BTW, are you some kind of neurotic worried about your "precious cerebral fluid?" How about electricity -- is it creeping out of the sockets to get you...?

Chris says, "Get over yourselves your little regime is done. BTW I'm not a democrat either.. I'm independant."

I love this particular misdirection. The Leftists think that disassociating themselves from the PPP will somehow make their rants more "believable?"

"I don't think conservative is a bad word...I call them what they are: Fascists."

And, the Leftist PPP adherents broadcast this claim to the whole world, and pander to their dislike of the US. The internationalist media (read: CNN) promote all such "news" and reinforce the world's xenophobia against the US.

Of course, this is actually a normal practice of the PPP, and ever since the 1968 spin on reality where the Republicans became *responsible* for the Vietnam war. During wartime, the PPP attempted to vilify and dehumanize and demand withdrawel from that war

Now, the PPP continues to act out as traitors, embarrassing the US in the world community by making the same tired complaints: servicemen and women are "murderers," they are "torturers," they are "fascists" and "nazis."

You and your ilk are nothing if not some of the most disgusting examples of humanity, available in volume...

The intellectual coward who signs himself "Visitor," says, "i am particularly impressed w/the use of bold in your script. w/out it i don't think i could fully comprehend the venom spewing."

Always happy to help the retarded to understand...

The realyrealpatriot1 says, "I voted for Bush while having, in retrospect, too much wishful thinking. Well what a clusterfuck that administration's turned out to be!"

More amusing misdirection!

Really, "realy," would you believe me if I said that I was a Democrat? No? Then why try to lie and misdirect your personal bias this way?

The "reasonable" part of any discussion wouldn't be your political credentials, but what you actually say about the issue. In this instance, you merely make claims. The claims aren't reasoned, no support is provided and those claims are derogatorially directed towards an administration which has accomplished a great deal -- despite whatever errors have been made, as well.

And, of course, that is what I meant by using "reason" by those on the Left -- it is non-existent. There isn't one blog out there where the claims made are supported by the facts or reasonable discussion. The claims are merely spouted; e.g., WMD is a lie, there was no "planning," there is no Plan B, there is no exit strategy, ad nauseam.

No, you are just like the flock of sheep, baaing and bleating the same unreasoned expostulations and issuing your "methane" in your attempts to pollute the political atmosphere.

Here, maybe you can understand this: BAA!...and BLEAT this (__!__)

If we could just find a way to capture all that methane, we might be able to reduce our dependence on foreign oil.

>>>I love this particular misdirection. The Leftists think that disassociating themselves from the PPP will somehow make their rants more "believable?"

I love how neo cons idiots like yourself, love to read into statements and pull assinine incorrect facts out of them. My arguments are the arguments of most americans you dunce! A dramatic overhaul of the goverment in general is needed. If I was in charge I'd abolish lobbyists forever. They'd be arrested for even trying to approach a goverment official. I'd make corporations and rich pay they're share and be accountable. It's sickening to me how this administration and it's cronies are transfering wealth in this nation.

>>>>Now, the PPP continues to act out as traitors, embarrassing the US in the world community by making the same tired complaints: servicemen and women are "murderers," they are "torturers," they are "fascists" and "nazis."

Traitors? I'm sure as long as the power of the people have a say, history will surely show who the traitors of the nation are..Bush and his cabal. Oh again stop spewing out that disinformation that anyone said servicemen are murderers. They're soldiers, the people sending them there are the real murderers fuckface.

>>>You and your ilk are nothing if not some of the most disgusting examples of humanity, available in volume...

Ooohh i'm shaking is that the best you can do? Again I reserve your statement for who the "disgusting ppl" truely are. The true people in need of a regime change. The neo conservatives and all who support that fascist agenda. You like free speech don't you? Oh wait maybe you don't? The crooks and liars in office really fear it.

C.

:-0

You're way too smart for me TARDOWDED. I lied about being a former Bushnut. I am a lifelong neo-communist who worships the Dark One and I also dabble in islamofascism. My hobby is playing videos backwards and I'm convinced that Cheney is Satan. So are you happy now? Cheney is my new lord and master!

I hate Bush though:
Social security, FEMA, Meirs, loyalism-cronyism, runaway pork spending, loss of world respect, fiscal retardation, debt for your unemployed grandchildren, embarrassing indictments of corrupt neocons, talking like a mental patient, failure after failure ad infinitum ... Everything he touches turns to shit! I cannot believe he hasn't been disowned yet he's damn lucky his parents are senile. But I'll forgive him if Afghanistan and Iraq become stable democracies and he admits that the U.S. presidency was way over his puny head and he resigns after his people go to jail. I'm off to pump some sheep with some conservative fundies I know.

This is the best Thanksgiving day thread ever!

Chris avows, "My arguments are the arguments of most americans..."

What is this? An appeal to "authority?" Do you honestly believe that the general public's opinion constitutes fact? Besides, you haven't made any arguments but have simply (take that pejoratively) declared your own "general" opinion as somehow factual.

"A dramatic overhaul of the goverment in general is needed. If I was in charge I'd abolish lobbyists forever."

So, you would dictate a restriction on freedom of speech and access to government -- what does this have to do with anything except your tendency to despotism?

"They'd be arrested for even trying to approach a goverment official. I'd make corporations and rich pay they're share and be accountable."

Ah, an elitist, collectivist tyrant wannabe, eh?

"It's sickening to me how this administration and it's cronies are transfering wealth in this nation."

Yeah, they should transfer wealth in the socialist way, right?

"I'm sure as long as the power of the people have a say, history will surely show who the traitors of the nation are..Bush and his cabal."

See? You merely expostulate sans reason, support or any other attempt to explain your exclamations. And, you think you should have the authority to outlaw lobbyists and restrict speech; as well as access to government?

"Oh again stop spewing out that disinformation that anyone said servicemen are murderers. They're soldiers, the people sending them there are the real murderers..."

Oh? I believe you left "torturers" off of the "list." Is that a freudian slip, or what? However, again, you simply deny the observation that the Left is attempting to defame and revile our military during a time of war. Perhaps you, personally, have not called any of our soldiers "murderers" but you can't tell me you haven't seen the comment from the Left since the invasion. So, just more typical effort to misdirect from just another collectivist dupe (if you aren't a stooge.)

"The true people in need of a regime change. The neo conservatives and all who support that fascist agenda. You like free speech don't you? Oh wait maybe you don't? The crooks and liars in office really fear it."

You don't even know what the term "fascism" means, but bandy it about freely. You think "free speech" is without consequences and that you can say whatever you please without any rebuttal. How ignorant can you get?

And, you continue with the mealymouthed effort pretending to being some "independent" by speaking of government, in general, but only vilifying and specifying the rightwing as your principle target. You continue to ignore, even deny, that the Left is attempting to discredit the war and by using any excuse they can to do so -- including calling our soldiers "murderers and torturers."

You are certainly included in the collectivist PPP with your attitude and dependence on "mob" support for your opinions...pretty sad, actually...

Thereallyrealwhatever says, "...Social security, FEMA, Meirs, loyalism-cronyism, runaway pork spending, loss of world respect, fiscal retardation, debt for your unemployed grandchildren, embarrassing indictments of corrupt neocons, talking like a mental patient, failure after failure ad infinitum ... "

This is a fine example of the Leftist, collectivist idea of what reasoned argument consists of...

Hey, Realy, let me introduce you to the "independent" Chris -- you and he have much in common: absymal ignorance.

Tadowe,
Who's baaing and bleating now? What is disfunctional in your arguments is that you too dismissively pinhole progessives or liberals in a formula such as:

1.Some liberal did/said X
2.x is stupid
3.Ergo, all liberals are stupid

By that logic, we could reason that all Republicans are gun polishing, bible-toting, redneck bigots. Sure, could be your arguments don't get any traction here because we are all rabid, foaming at the mouth Bush-haters, or maybe they're just stupid.

Since RETARDOWE will not answer, I'll respond for him:

"Social security": You idiot lefties thwarted Bush.
"FEMA": Should be dismantled since it was a socialist idea anyways.
"Meirs": Who's the left to call someone unqualified?
"loyalism-cronyism": Every right thinker knows loyalty beats diversity and competency.
"runaway pork spending": What are you socialists complaining about now?
"loss of world respect": Fuck em! They're all islamofascist lovers anyways!
"fiscal retardation, debt for your unemployed grandchildren": It's the lefties that will be unemployed!
"embarrassing indictments of corrupt neocons": Only according to islamofascists.
"talking like a mental patient": I put food on my family all the time!
"failure after failure ad infinitum ... ": Only PPP lefties are brainwashed by the MSM!

ASSHAT CHENEY IS MY LORD AND MASTER!

Yes, this is the real PATRIOT1, this PIECE OF CRAP COWARD "Thereallyrealpatriot1" was posting comments with my name trying to be ME then when he was cought he changed the name to thereallyrealMORON, you can all see the history of this CRAP LEFTY if you start from the top, this moron can't even comeup with his own name THAT tells you the kind of poor brain this wannabe has...when they can't win with FACTS they will comeup with moronic comments like the one you see above - I will say this to you moron...you can pick any Country with the exeption of the fine people of UK and then try to pull this trash there...how much seconds of life you think you will have to say goodbye to your CRAP family.

I support 100% this administration but I have a problem with what I found in this video: www.metacafe.com

Any comments? Happy Thanksgiving for the REAL PATRIOTS out there!

He did it again...If you see MORONIC comments like this one: "ASSHAT CHENEY IS MY LORD AND MASTER!" then that is not me but a COWARD trying to sign like me and as well others. How much MAN do you feel doing what your doing...this are the first trash asking for help after a tragedy

I was the original patriot1, asswhipe!

No you're the CRAP ASS REAL PATRIOT1!
COWARD!!

The www.metacafe.com real patriot is THE imposter! And the third one to. IGNORE THET CRAP ASS COWA4D. I the original!!!!

Crooked Lip should make sure the "X" goes with him whereever he speaks. It's far more pleasant to look at.

Dorge says, "1.Some liberal did/said X... 2. x is stupid
3. Ergo, all liberals are stupid
"

"By that logic, we could reason that all Republicans are gun polishing, bible-toting, redneck bigots. Sure, could be your arguments don't get any traction here because we are all rabid, foaming at the mouth Bush-haters, or maybe they're just stupid."

I have to laugh, since that is exactly what the Left does in lumping all conservatives into the same "neocon/fascist" image and then reviling them for it. It is even more amusing that when you get a little of the same medicine in return -- you go (collectively) ballistic!

Any "generality" made isn't necessarily invalid, however many "independent" exceptions present themselves. In this contretemps, and which has lasted since 2000, the Left just can't accept that Bush was elected, instead of Al Gore (rich and from tobacco money.) They have been attempting a concerted partisan attempt to misdirect and lie about that election and every single thing they can dig up, ever since.

For example, the dupes of the Left still mouth the Big Lie that the US Supreme Court decided illegally and partisanly for Bush against Gore in having a limited recount in Florida...

Nothing could be further from the truth, since it was the Florida SC which decided to hold limited recounts against Florida state law, and apparently for partisan support of Gore(Rogers won't jump at the chance to verify that, but he knows it is true.)

The Left continues to promote the Big Lie that the concern over WMD in Iraq was a "lie." They continue to claim that there was no planning done prior to the invasion of Iraq -- that there is no "exit strategy," and all of which are untrue but still promoted so that the party dupes will continue to repeat them.

Then, when any attempt is made to refute the lies and misdirections, that person attempting to do so is called a fascist, a nazi, a warmongering "hawk" (although PPP "hawks" are accounted as "heroes," and even "conservatives.") Indeed, the *real* conservatives of the Democrat party are reviled as "Dixiecrats" and dismissed as "traitors" when they speak out against the Left's lies (see Zell Miller comments made by PPP ideologues.)

No, the generalities fit the Left to a veritable "T," and are actually mild in comparison to the hate and vitriol being expressed by supposedly "reasonable" collectivists -- just read some of the Left's comments, above, and on blogs like the Leftcoaster or the Drudge Retort.

...and you expect to be trusted to know what is best for the US...? What a laugh!

You are insane and not the real patriot1. COWARD! IDIOT! SWINE! I support Cheney 100% since he become my lord and master while you support Bush who is a mere mortal. Bush is nothing without Cheney!! Mark my words. He is lord of the underworld and all will bow to Asshat Cheney in due time! That includes ALL you fake patriot1s.

The Really Real 1 asks, "I support 100% this administration but I have a problem with what I found in this video: www.metacafe.com. Any comments?"

Yes, indeed! How can any PPP collectivist claim that it is the rightwing with all the conspiracy theories and hysterical explanations when crap like this is believed by a significant percentage of them?

What kind of idiots does it take to imagine a conspiracy where the US joins with terrorists to destroy their own billions of dollars buildings, and with the participation of all of those who would be needed to order, store, tranship and set the explosives needed to demolish three huge buildings like the WTC and a nearby structure?

How would the "secret" be kept? How would all of this take place without anyone noticing the installation of explosive packages at all the strategic points needed to bring those buildings down? How could they do so and know where the planes would hit -- otherwise place explosives on ALL the floors so that when the planes hit, the buildings would be completely destroyed...?

What a humongous group of grifos you estupidos just happen to be...!

As always, you're wrong again. Cheney planned the whole conspiracy and was also behind putting that X on his head as well.

WHO POSTS COMMENTS THIS STUPID?

"He did it again...If you see MORONIC comments like this one: "ASSHAT CHENEY IS MY LORD AND MASTER!" then that is not me but a COWARD trying to sign like me and as well others. How much MAN do you feel doing what your doing...this are the first trash asking for help after a tragedy"

ONLY AN FAKE!!!!!!!!!!

This is to asnwer your comment TADOWE, first you have no reason why to insult my question, I never said a thing about a comspiracy to take down the WTC towers but my problem with that piece of video is that LARRY guy who made 7 billion $$$ with the insurance of the WTC #7 when he is on record saying he told the fire department to "PULL IT" - Why the New York Port Authorities ( Owners of the 3 buildings ) didn't say a word about it and they got $0 from any insurance company but the lanlord "LARRY" was paid $7 BILLION with "B", Thanks for the comments anyway.

After posting an answer to TADOWE, I find out this MORONIC guy posted TWICE comments one after the other like if he was two different people and trying to make me believe there is a third CRAP signing as THE REAL PATRIOT1, he posts a comment and then right after answers his comment like if he was me, making a paste/copy of portions of my comments...poor crap

"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel".

Will the true patriot please stand up?

Whoever loses this flame war has to move to Truth or Consequences.

With Bush you get Dick!

>>>>Chris avows, "My arguments are the arguments of most americans..."
"What is this? An appeal to "authority?" Do you honestly believe that the general public's opinion constitutes fact? Besides, you haven't made any arguments but have simply (take that pejoratively) declared your own "general" opinion as somehow factual."

No it's not an appeal to authority. It's called based in reality, which most of you right wingnuts don't deal with EVER. Maybe again you're living in your fantasy world where getting rich, screwing the poor, sitting on your moral high horse being a hypocrite, and basically trying to make life a living hell for anyone not like you is reality but IT's NOT FOR MOST AMERICANS. Newsflash dickwad: Have you seen the polls? Have you seen you're little cabals approval rating? How about a nice cup of SHUT THE FUCK UP!? I guess the general public's opinion is fact in this case. Here's the obvious fact your missing: We want Bush & his cronies out of office. Oh i'm sure your rebuttal will be "It's the liberal medias fault"

>>>"A dramatic overhaul of the goverment in general is needed. If I was in charge I'd abolish lobbyists forever."
"So, you would dictate a restriction on freedom of speech and access to government -- what does this have to do with anything except your tendency to despotism?"

There is a huge difference in denying access to corportations (which I'm not sure which business school you went to but 99.9% are in it for maximum profit, in case you didn't know numbnuts) from screwing the american people by running public programs for profit at the expense of taxpayers and free speech. Throwing a big word like despotism and making me out to be a tyrant does not validate your argument, it just makes you look like a needy pissed off child arguing with an adult.

>>"They'd be arrested for even trying to approach a goverment official. I'd make corporations and rich pay they're share and be accountable."
Ah, an elitist, collectivist tyrant wannabe, eh?

I see you had to open up your neo con "book of name calling" to pull out "elitist" and "tyrant" to try and discredit my passion for championing the underprivledged. Typical neo con rhetoric. Most americans are so over it and instantly see right through it.

>>>"It's sickening to me how this administration and it's cronies are transfering wealth in this nation."
Yeah, they should transfer wealth in the socialist way, right?"

There should be no transfer of wealth. Again with the name calling. Is someone angry? awww.

>>>"I'm sure as long as the power of the people have a say, history will surely show who the traitors of the nation are..Bush and his cabal."
See? You merely expostulate sans reason, support or any other attempt to explain your exclamations. And, you think you should have the authority to outlaw lobbyists and restrict speech; as well as access to government?"

I'd never restrict free speech, yet isn't Bush and his cabal trying to limit free speech? Yes it's a well known fact. They also want to take away civil liberties. Ever hear of the patriot act? Why? Because if you're against them you're against America? What kind of moronic logic is that? whoops forgot it's the bigoted conservative view of the world.

>>>Oh? I believe you left "torturers" off of the "list." Is that a freudian slip, or what? However, again, you simply deny the observation that the Left is attempting to defame and revile our military during a time of war. Perhaps you, personally, have not called any of our soldiers "murderers" but you can't tell me you haven't seen the comment from the Left since the invasion. So, just more typical effort to misdirect from just another collectivist dupe (if you aren't a stooge.)"

Tadowe? Stick with me. Stop projecting your skewed vision of what the left is. It makes you look weak. That's the problem with you crazed neo cons. You're so reactionary. I have plenty of conservative friends. In fact most of the ones I know have done a complete 360 on Bush. Even his own party is abandoning him. I've talked to rightwinger everywhere, they don't like what's going on either. Your ilk are going extinct, face it....I know you'll come back with "How is that a fact, who have you talked to, and that I'm lying!" or something but face it you don't know me and your attempts to pigeon hole me have gone completely off the mark.

>>You don't even know what the term "fascism" means, but bandy it about freely. You think "free speech" is without consequences and that you can say whatever you please without any rebuttal. How ignorant can you get?"

Are you kidding me? I THINK YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT FASCISM IS. Since you're a complete moron let me cut n paste it out of websters for you ok?:

fascism |fa sh iz'm| (also Fascism) noun an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization. (in general use) extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice.

>>>And, you continue with the mealymouthed effort pretending to being some "independent" by speaking of government, in general, but only vilifying and specifying the rightwing as your principle target. You continue to ignore, even deny, that the Left is attempting to discredit the war and by using any excuse they can to do so -- including calling our soldiers "murderers and torturers."

Here's the facts asswipe: We should have never even been in Iraq. Any neo con attempt to justify beign there is null an void. Got it? Attacking a sovereign nation that did not attack us is really aggressive. It's also been proven that the conservative think group "Project for a New American Century" wanted this war way before 9-11. It was an excuse to bleed the taxpayers and get some oil. Now i'm sure your going to say something like but Saddam was a evil dictator. Yeah, that's bad ,but it's not our job to go all over the planet changing political systems to our own corrupt system. Got it? How many terrorist groups were in Iraq before the war. None. How many now? LOTS!

And finally, follow this link if you don't believe that Bush and his cronies are much like nazis. In fact they have some ties to nazis:

www.commondreams.org

now go cry me a river asshole!

Chris Ibsen

Ibsen repeats, "Have you seen the polls? Have you seen you're little cabals approval rating?"

You still don't attempt to discuss whatever "facts" might support the "polls." You merely appeal to the "authority" of the public and which is "average," at best.

"There is a huge difference in denying access to corportations (which I'm not sure which business school you went to but 99.9% are in it for maximum profit, in case you didn't know numbnuts) from screwing the american people by running public programs for profit at the expense of taxpayers and free speech."

Oh, you mean like the airlines getting terminals built on taxpayer's money? AMTRAK and other business bailouts? You're right on those counts, since that is socialism on a national level.

"Throwing a big word like despotism and making me out to be a tyrant does not validate your argument, it just makes you look like a needy pissed off child arguing with an adult."

Okay, let's view some of your "making me out" comments in order:

"...you right wingnuts..."

"...you're living in your fantasy world where getting rich, screwing the poor, sitting on your moral high horse being a hypocrite, and basically trying to make life a living hell for anyone not like you..."

"...dickwad."

"...SHUT THE FUCK UP!?"

"...numbnuts."

"...you look like a needy pissed off child."

"...you crazed neo cons."

"...asswipe..."

"...asshole!"

Enough said. Besides, trying to discuss anything with someone who thinks "despotism" is a "big word" is essentially useless. However, I can end with something that you will certainly agree with, knowing your collective, PPP devotion and degree of understanding:

Baa! Bleat!

>>"They'd be arrested for even trying to approach a goverment official. I'd make corporations and rich pay they're share and be accountable."
Ah, an elitist, collectivist tyrant wannabe, eh?

I see you had to open up your neo con "book of name calling" to pull out "elitist" and "tyrant" to try and discredit my passion for championing the underprivledged. Typical neo con rhetoric. Most americans are so over it and instantly see right through it.

>>>"It's sickening to me how this administration and it's cronies are transfering wealth in this nation."
Yeah, they should transfer wealth in the socialist way, right?"

There should be no transfer of wealth. Again with the name calling. Is someone angry? awww.

>>>"I'm sure as long as the power of the people have a say, history will surely show who the traitors of the nation are..Bush and his cabal."
See? You merely expostulate sans reason, support or any other attempt to explain your exclamations. And, you think you should have the authority to outlaw lobbyists and restrict speech; as well as access to government?"

I'd never restrict free speech, yet isn't Bush and his cabal trying to limit free speech? Yes it's a well known fact. They also want to take away civil liberties. Ever hear of the patriot act? Why? Because if you're against them you're against America? What kind of moronic logic is that? whoops forgot it's the bigoted conservative view of the world.

>>>Oh? I believe you left "torturers" off of the "list." Is that a freudian slip, or what? However, again, you simply deny the observation that the Left is attempting to defame and revile our military during a time of war. Perhaps you, personally, have not called any of our soldiers "murderers" but you can't tell me you haven't seen the comment from the Left since the invasion. So, just more typical effort to misdirect from just another collectivist dupe (if you aren't a stooge.)"

Tadowe? Stick with me. Stop projecting your skewed vision of what the left is. It makes you look weak. That's the problem with you crazed neo cons. You're so reactionary. I have plenty of conservative friends. In fact most of the ones I know have done a complete 360 on Bush. Even his own party is abandoning him. I've talked to rightwinger everywhere, they don't like what's going on either. Your ilk are going extinct, face it....I know you'll come back with "How is that a fact, who have you talked to, and that I'm lying!" or something but face it you don't know me and your attempts to pigeon hole me have gone completely off the mark.

>>You don't even know what the term "fascism" means, but bandy it about freely. You think "free speech" is without consequences and that you can say whatever you please without any rebuttal. How ignorant can you get?"

Are you kidding me? I THINK YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT FASCISM IS. Since you're a complete moron let me cut n paste it out of websters for you ok?:

fascism |fa sh iz'm| (also Fascism) noun an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization. (in general use) extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice.

>>>And, you continue with the mealymouthed effort pretending to being some "independent" by speaking of government, in general, but only vilifying and specifying the rightwing as your principle target. You continue to ignore, even deny, that the Left is attempting to discredit the war and by using any excuse they can to do so -- including calling our soldiers "murderers and torturers."

Here's the facts asswipe: We should have never even been in Iraq. Any neo con attempt to justify beign there is null an void. Got it? Attacking a sovereign nation that did not attack us is really aggressive. It's also been proven that the conservative think group "Project for a New American Century" wanted this war way before 9-11. It was an excuse to bleed the taxpayers and get some oil. Now i'm sure your going to say something like but Saddam was a evil dictator. Yeah, that's bad ,but it's not our job to go all over the planet changing political systems to our own corrupt system. Got it? How many terrorist groups were in Iraq before the war. None. How many now? LOTS!

And finally, follow this link if you don't believe that Bush and his cronies are much like nazis. In fact they have some ties to nazis:

www.commondreams.org

now go cry me a river asshole!

Chris Ibsen

Liberals do it too, liberals do it too. I just figured out your problem Tadowe--you're a child.

Maybe Bush and his administration are not the evil liars that some on the left make them out to be, rather just incompetent. Either way, every rational leading up to the Iraq war is discredited, and despite your simpleton dichotomy of conservative=analysis/ liberal=emotion, 9/11 was exploited in a multifaceted publicity campaign to stoke the fears of the public, squelch dissent (gee, may I call them french fries again, oh party of ideas) or even debate as unpatriotic and bully the press.

My younger brother is a conservative, while I'm left of FDR, and we can have perfectly civil conversations about politics, because he doesn't vilify those that disagree with him, or paint with the broad stupid partisan brush that is your hallmark here.

There are many cresting facts that suggest the Bush administration was less than credible leading up to the war--the Downing Street memos, the yellowcake fuck up, the aluminum tube fuck up, the revelations regarding curveball's reliability on intelligence, WHIG machinations, etc.

It is you that is a bundle of emotion, and your fealty to Bush is the beginning and end of your much ballyhooed "logic." Your desperation is entertaining to watch, however.


.

Dorge says, "Maybe Bush and his administration are not the evil liars that some on the left make them out to be, rather just incompetent. Either way, every rational leading up to the Iraq war is discredited..."

And, here is your support for your claims:

"There are many cresting facts that suggest the Bush administration was less than credible leading up to the war--the Downing Street memos, the yellowcake fuck up, the aluminum tube fuck up, the revelations regarding curveball's reliability on intelligence, WHIG machinations, etc."

Etc.? As for the "memo," however fake it may be, it doesn't dismiss the actual fact that Iraq was attempting to get enriched uranium from Niger. The "yellow cake fuckup" as you say did occur. Indeed, Wilson admitted in his book, The Politics of Truth: Inside the Lies that Led to War and Betrayed My Wife's CIA Identity: A Diplomat's Memoir, that he knew in 1999 that Iraq was attempting to establish "trade relations" with Niger officials. The sick irony is that Wilson Lied when he said that his investigation showed that Iraq had *not* sought trade with Niger.

As for biological WMD, Iraq has never shown that it destroyed those substances. Indeed, in just one case, Iraq fails to account for an estimated 10,000 liters of Anthrax and 19,000 liters of Botulinum toxin. That is just the tip of the iceberg when Iraq's

While most of you wasted valuable time chasing your own tails and regurgitating your "talking points," culminating in a series of pathetic displays of frenzy, I used my time to pig out on the typical culinary bounty of Thanksgiving. Then, in my typical post pig-out ritual, I imbibed serious quantities of Tequila, reduced some quality left-handed herb to ash, raided granny's "rx goody box" to balance things out, and then topped it off with some South American Marching Powder in order to keep from passing out! You should try this sometime. It's wonderful. PS - I learned of and adopted this ritual after being exposed to it by none other than monkey-boy himself, during the early 80's, on 6th Street in Austin. So I guess you're right when you observe that W fucks up eveything he touches. He sure fucked me up! Thanks, Jr.!

Tadowe you've clearly been defeated in this debate so why not just cut your losses and regroup when you stop believing all the lies Bush and his ilk are spreading. If you could be objective for one moment and stop looking at everything through a left or right filter. If you could stop calling anyone who doesn't believe in a republican, or shall I say neo con system of doing things a tyrant, elitist (which is quite funny considering how secretive and above the law Bush, Rove and co. think they are).

You can't honestly believe that all of these investigations, and criminal (in some cases) charges being brought up (look at Frist, Delay, Libby, the list goes on and surely will grow larger) are just left wing politcal games. Seriously we both know both sides play games like that, but truth is truth. Clinton lied about whatever he did with Lewinsky and the conservatives were having a field day with that impeaching him. Is it as big a deal as sending 1,000's of people to their deaths? Not in my book. I don't understand why Bush & Co have not been dragged out of the whitehouse in cuffs. But I'm digressing. Point is this: This country is in trouble.

We cannot continue with the bullshit and wasting taxpayers money. All these morality/hot button issues need to go away and what your fellow man or woman does with themselves (as long as it doesn't hurt you) should not matter. Here's the solution to that....love thy neighbor and stay out of his or her business. End of story. I'm not even religious but to each his own I say. Second, the class war has to stop. We have so many pressing issues at home here we need to work on. Third we have to stop policing the world. How would you feel if someone invaded the US on false pretense? Not too happy. Fourth stop using the media as a propoganda machine (both sides) and justification for everything. Finally work with the world to make it a better place. Hey it's getting hotter here. Global warming is the REAL issue we should be dealing with. That and the fact that oil will be gone in about 20-25 years. You know how to ride a horse? Say goodbye to suburbia. It's funny how Bush refuses to join the Kyoto Treaty but States and cities are saying fuck you we're going to start without you.

Chris

Yea, whatever, skip over what you will, and argue with yourself, dumbass.

The fact remains, this war was completely elective, damned to hell by a circle-jerk of incompetents and/or liars, but toadies like you can be counted on to defend them.

I hope you get the medal of freedom.

maybe it's just the tryptophan talking, but i find t difficult to tell who's joking on this thread.

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Tadowe,

You've been saying for 2 days, since the start of this thread what idiots we libs, dems etc. are. Yet here you are reading and posting along with those you say are stupid. What does that make you.

Keep spinin' son.

I have no time for this ass, or this hat, because I have BILLIONS AND BILLIONS of dollars to loot!

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Billiondollarcheney.com

To W. When in a hole stop diging!!!!

TAD DOWE
I took some time to read through all your posts and have come to the conclusion that you are absolutely correct 100% of the time. Bush and Cheney are true patriots. Nay, the only true patriots. Nay nay, to be worshipped and obeyed as one would worship and obey an all knowing God! The MSM is a force of pure evil which is not out to gain market share and make a profit by selling soap (as those silly lefties claim) but are set on the destruction of all which we true patriots hold sacred and dear in this great land of ours, which is the only great land that has ever existed (cept maybe Israel). MSM = Islamofascism, plain and simple. Everyone who has crossed the line of centrism into that sinister and dark place known as "the left" has fallen prey to the evil of this MSM conspiracy.

Crazy theories like: Those who are hardwired so as to be driven exclusively to wealth and power (malignant narcissist, psychopath, extreme "thinkers", etc.) have the greatest potential of becoming dangerous predators who are capable of everything including the use of masks of idealism, patriotism, and heroism to hide their true motives (which are purely self-serving and are the antithesis of idealism, patriotism, and heroism), which necessitates the free flow of discourse inducing information to act as a checks and balances system which benefits the rest of humanity who are not hardwired to be driven exclusively to wealth and power (the humanitarians, the caring, the socially-minded, etc.), in defending themselves from what they term "evil", which occurs in all races and cultures (Bin laden, Stalin, Hussein, and some say, the somewhat more politically constrained Cheney) are to be ignored.

Absolute freedom and liberty for all allows the strongest of us to become the omnipotent masters (over the weaker minded slaves) we were born to be. That our genes survived because of cooperation of diversity is irrelevant to this glorious cause.

Rcade edits the forum:

Thanks Rogers for removing half of my post -- I'm sure your aficionados appreciate not having to read anything that might upset them.

Ibsen misdirects, " Hey it's getting hotter here. Global warming is the REAL issue we should be dealing with. That and the fact that oil will be gone in about 20-25 years. You know how to ride a horse? Say goodbye to suburbia. It's funny how Bush refuses to join the Kyoto Treaty but States and cities are saying fuck you we're going to start without you."

Here is something for you to consider:

Our sun is the driving force for global warming. It represents about 99.9% of the reason (no sun -- no warming.)

Of the greenhouse gasses, H2O is the main/principle substance which holds the heat, at about 95%. CO2 is only about 2-3% of the heat holding gasses.

Of the CO2 produced annually, mankind is responsible for only about 5-10% of that total. . .

So, reducing our CO2 production by 100% would have no appreciable effect on global warming...we might manage to slow the process by (at best) 10 years in 100 (but probably much less if even 1-2 years.)

BTW, Kyoto will NOT be able to plug land and sea volcanic action which produces most of nature's CO2...

Read up on it a little, and which is something that 99.99% of you chicken littles will never do, because you already know -- your puppet handlers told you...

The Really Real Real One1 gets sarcastic, "I took some time to read through all your posts and have come to the conclusion that you are absolutely correct 100% of the time. Bush and Cheney are true patriots. Nay, the only true patriots. Nay nay, to be worshipped and obeyed as one would worship and obey an all knowing God!"

Yes, indeed! As everyone can see -- all those who actually read all the posts -- the Left is totally incapable of rational argument in discussion of the issues. It is nothing more than unsupported claims, unreasoned expostulations and inane sarcasms.

It seems the People's Progressive Party is a magnet for the intellectually deficient -- those who just can't seem to learn. Indeed, whatever intelligence the PPP has is made obvious by its absence...

...and you subnormal losers think you are able to run the country...what a laugh...

I am outraged and incensed by the skullduggery I see oozing forth like a vile serum, leaking out from the corners of his rep-to eyes and worse, the repugnant crook of his mouth like a twisted sneer at the U.S. people, nay, the Whole World.

I'm talking about Cheney, not Tadowe.

This Cheney dude has got to be a replicant. No true human could be so off-putting to a perspicacious person, or even to the deluded poor souls who think that Michelle Malkin is hot.

When you look at the assembled team of Bush, Cheney, and Rove (not necessarily in that order), tell me, what do you see?

Do you see what I see? (no, not in this video, it's another one, but it's still relevant).

As Gore made clear, it's Cowboy Mikado ruled by Shogun vice-president. Get it?

Thank the lord I've got all my inoculations, when I look at Cheney's face, I start to feel kinda bad. When will this misery end? Haven't we, the People suffered enough? How long? O how long?

But, eventually, I believe, "everything's gonna be alright".

Life goes on and on. We all slog through our little predicaments, but when I see a face like Cheney's, I run for cover.

You know, the Victorians' weren't so far off base, when they believed that imprints of the soul were left on the face.

To Dick Cheney from Wyoming: Why O Me-ng?

"Devastation of the land"? Go ahead, call it what it is: "land-rape".

The manifestation of Cheney's soul is not a theological question. It's a simple matter of give and take (face it, even Buddha was a realist. Especially Buddha, dammit).

If Cheney were enlightened, I'm afraid it would negate his existence.

There has to be a remedy for the sickness of the soul that these people like Cheney have. In all due diligence, we should have compassion for them.

If there's no magic dust available, then let's just shovel some. It's in the air, and they can't charge us for it, not yet, anyway. Watch Out.

Amen right on. As a cowboy spirit myself, I say that this here fella Cheney don't look right to me. Sabe?

Shuuxxx, all it takes is a couple of waves of the hand, and they'll be gone like bugs in a storm. Believe it. He just goes around stirrin' up trouble, tryin' to get people excited. Yeehah!

When I woke up, the scoundrels had cleaned out the landscape, and left a bunch of I.O.U.'s , for US to pay! Whaddya say about that?

Business as usual, bub, as Cheney would be the first to tell you, if he wasn't so busy...

And they do keep themselves busy, don't they? Busy cleaning out America's wallet, right? You betcha. It's a program, but they don't call it that.

They always seem to call it the opposite of what it really is: "No child left behind"?

To Benjoya ("I find it difficult to tell who's joking on this thread".):

That's the way it's supposed to be.

Even Buddha could tell you that, rub.

Once you begin to realize that life itself is encrypted, and not just our "pathetic jokes", then you can really get somewhere.

I do believe that more than just DNA is encoded in our lives (watch out! here they come!) These sequences are readable, if you have the key. And we do.

It all sounds like some paranoid Da Vinci Code fantasy bullshit. I really can't buy into it. I believe in scientific rigour, not some hyped-up, warmed-over utilitarianism.

If you want that, why don't you go to B&N and stock up on some Dyanetics?

Frankly, "...paranoid Da Vinci Code fantasy bullshit", is exactly what I always thought Cheney was peddling.

Trenches says, "You know, the Victorians' weren't so far off base, when they believed that imprints of the soul were left on the face."

Well, where does that leave James Carville, then?

Some of Jimmy's reasoned propaganda:

You (Novak/Republicans) hate little people. You hate the unemployed. You hate poor children. You hate all the little people of the world. You love big people...I think Canadians are pretty proud people. I actually like Canada, I like Canadians. Just like I like France and I like French people and everybody else. You right wingers, you all hate poor people, you hate children, you hate Canadians, you hate Frenchmen. You hate everything. What the hell do you like other than rich people?

Yeah, all that soul wrecked hatred bubbling-out of both of Carville's faces...

...and that's your party (the PPP) a bunch of hate mongers and wretched souls...

And, you all think you are capable of running this country...what bitter irony...

TAD DOWE,

"...and you subnormal losers think you are able to run the country...what a laugh... "

But I ran your fool ass around in circles didn't I? You're far too easily displayed as an unwitting specimen. A remedy might be to lighten up. You'll live longer. "Asshat Cheney" was one of the funniest things I've seen in a long time and playing with your overly conservative thought processes was a bonus. Start your own website if you think you can do better.

Carville is one ugly mumptious, but he's smart.

And who are talking to who anyway? Sounds like you've had a few too. Thanksgiving was yesterday. Now back to Cheney: Earth Flash!--Cheney is not human. can't you see this? It's so obvious, I mean like giving you a wedgie obvious, duh.

Grow up and join the human race.

Carville's faces... I could make a poem out of that, but I think Marlowe already did. It was a sonnet...I'll leave it at that.

Cheney is one of those recurring characters of history,( but not brave, like Hotspur). Sometimes you think humanity really is cut out on templates. If it is, Cheney is cut out of anti-matter.

As evening falls on the Workbench website Asshat Cheney' comments thread:

The realyrealpatriot1: "G'night, The patriot1."
ThePatriot1: "GOOD NIGHT PIECE OF CRAP COWARD!"

The realyrealpatriot1: "G'night, The real patriot1."
The real patriot1: "Godd night! conspiracy TRASH bunch of CRAPS!"

The realyrealpatriot1: "G'night TAD DOWE."
TAD DOWE: "Good night, partisan hacks, PPP members, virtual traitors, fascist neurotics, goebbelsesque baaaing and bleating idiotic disgusting unreasoning expostulaters, and you humongous group of grifos estupidos, chicken littles, subnormal losers, and all others of your intellectually deficient ilk."

The realyrealpatriot1 grins and sighs...

What is this thing with the "Patriots"?

I thought they were a football team.

Yeah, how do they keep track of each other? You'd need a graph to do it.

I agreed with last two asking how the patriots keep track of the comments, I tell you how, read the first comment left by the PATRIOT1 that will be ME, then because in there is no registration or unique useid in this site anybody PIECE OF CRAP MORON DOWNBRAIN TO THE TOILET can leave a comment using the others name - actually there are 2 PIECE OF TRASHES and that included their families as well who are signing with my ORIGINAL NAME, these LEFTIES can't even comeup with a name and they think is so funny posting comments with other names and until the BRANIAC who is in charge of this site can comeup with a way to give a UNIQUE USER NAME to the people this will be my last posting. Happy Hollydays to the REAL AMERICANS and that means 100% AMERICAN DNAs out there not the CRAP who just because they learn how to write english they think they are americans, just think about this my REAL PATRIOT FRIENDS; When we let the Mercedes Bens (Gremans) bring their cars here we asign them a number to those cars to be able to ride in our highways, right? so in the same NOT because we give a number to those craps that come here that makes you an American but jut a CRAPY CAR with an asigned number to ride in our highway -

The Really1 says, "But I ran your fool ass around in circles didn't I?"

This is "writing," not "running," however the old saw does say that only a fool argues with a fool...

"You're far too easily displayed as an unwitting specimen."

So, you are now a bombastic, "running" fool...congratulations...glad I could help.

Well, that explains everything. Everbody should know that the Republicans insert subliminal propaganda in media packets. At least, the media hacks who are league with them in their quest for world domination do this.

Did you realize that for years the phone companies have used subliminal audio in their TV commercials? Their R&D laboratories have found that certain low-frequency tones (even those beneath the range of conscious hearing), can elicit emotional responses in the unwitting dupes who listen to their insipid commercials.

Wake up, people! Your brains are being invaded by their insidious mind-worms. And don't you think the Republicans are inserting some political ads in their too, all to brainwash the poor ignorant fools. Stop the madness!

Get Back admits, "Carville is one ugly mumptious, but he's smart."

Yeah, smart...you can tell by cultured words he uses, his cultured accent and manner. You can tell his hellish soul lives in the Sothren part of Hades -- while the demonish soul of Cheney comes from the Northren section.

"And who are talking to who anyway? Sounds like you've had a few too."

I was replying to a comment by Trenches, but I'm no elitist running fool and think anyone should be able to read the various comments here and write their own -- without having to start their own site. I've made a few replies, that's true, but what's your point?

"Thanksgiving was yesterday."

Thanks for the information -- you must be a PPP adherent, eh?

"Now back to Cheney: Earth Flash!--Cheney is not human. can't you see this? It's so obvious, I mean like giving you a wedgie obvious, duh."

Ah, a believer in aliens! Do you know that the "polls" show that the vast majority of those believing in the UFO/alien theme are Democrats? You're in the PPP, now!

"Grow up and join the human race."

Oh, you think I'm one of the aliens...good luck with your therapy.

Why do people have to use such sexual language to express their ideas? How the English language has deteriorated! Can't you hooligans find a modicum of decency in the way you communicate? It's bad enough that we have people like Cheney out there corrupting the minds of this nation's youth.

I can't believe it's taken this long (look how long this thread is), for someone to come along and tell all you sleepyheads that Cheney is a master hypnotist, and whoever watched that video clip is now his sex slave forever! You are doomed! Ha!Ha!Ha!

Liberalmofo says, "You've been saying for 2 days, since the start of this thread what idiots we libs, dems etc. are. Yet here you are reading and posting along with those you say are stupid. What does that make you."

I'm delighted that you, a "liberal," agree with me that, as you say, libs are idiots and stupid. As for what it makes me? Well, I suppose "tutor" would be applicable, and I'm gratified that I could assist you in that regard.

"Keep spinin' son."

I knew your momma, before you were born, Liberalmofo, and we have something in comman, it seems. You might even be my "son," kid. If so, then I must say that I don't have much respect for your familial relationships...

Rcade edits the forum: Thanks Rogers for removing half of my post ...

That's not true. I haven't edited any comments.

Rogers says, "That's not true. I haven't edited any comments."

Sorry for the misattribution, Rogers. I probably left a brace open, or something like that...

"PIECE OF CRAP MORON DOWNBRAIN TO THE TOILET"
Alrighty then. My first posting moniker was a mistake. You can own "Thepatriot1".

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"only a fool argues with a fool"
Please explain and source these comments:

"Of the greenhouse gasses, H2O is the main/principle substance which holds the heat, at about 95%. CO2 is only about 2-3% of the heat holding gasses. Of the CO2 produced annually, mankind is responsible for only about 5-10% of that total."

From another website under your moniker:

The elements of what are called "greenhouse gasses" are, in the main, water vapor (H2O), CO2 and methane. Of these three, H2O represents 90% of the total with CO2 at about 8-9% and methane about 2%. Of the CO2 produced annually, about 10% of that is contributed by mankind, throughout the world. So mankind contributes about 10% of the total CO2 produced and which is approximately 10% of the total greenhouse gasses which are assisting the rise of global warming.

Please explain the discrepancy and give a source so this fool can learn something new.

The Really Real1 asks, "Please explain the discrepancy and give a source so this fool can learn something new."

I guestimated. Some research says 90%, some 95% and some approximate 85%. The "point" which you apparently wish to avoid, is that water (H2O) and not CO2 is the principle greenhouse gas. It indicates that the remaining 5,10 or 15% is small in comparison to its impact on global warming. Indeed, mankind's production of CO2 is even smaller in comparison to the total CO2 produced by nature at approx. 10% (if that.) We can't effect global warming by more a few years per 100; even if we stopped CO2 production entirely.

As for the "fool/fool" saying -- why not look some of these things up yourself? Are you one of those losers who needs everything "fed" to you by your mentors...?

"why not look some of these things up yourself?"

I've never cared much about debating the greenhouse effect since it's still a controversial subject best left to the experts to resolve. What I care about is the veracity of YOUR conclusions.

Until you can tell me who did this study and what their credentials are I'll conclude that you've simply cherrypicked a dubious source.

I am utterly astounded by the depths of loquacious inanity revealed here. You people should get with the program, take some civics courses, and learn how to have a civil debate. Now that we've dispensed with that, let me tell you:

Cheney is one of those demonically intelligent holograms. He's not shifty eyed, like Bush, but you do see flashes of the demonic in his speech, usually after a point of emphasis. Pay attention to those brief flashes.

STFU!

Point taken.

Now , let us examine the letter sequence STFU. This is a common ellipsis in proto Indo-European, the root language that the ancestors of most Europeans spoke thousands of years ago (except for the Basque people: there is a theory that they were the descendants of a genome-pocket of Cro-Magnons, like a cave-artist colony).

Next question, please?

Since things have gotten a bit slow on this thread I've taken the liberty of creating a glossary for the newbies:

"2 PIECE OF TRASHES" = other posters with patriot1 in their monikers

"BRANIAC" = owner of the website

"100% AMERICAN DNAs out there not the CRAP" = conservative

"REAL PATRIOT FRIENDS" = Tad Dowe

"CRAPY CAR" = liberal

"bombastic" = projected pompousness

"guestimate" = to expostulate without any support or any other attempt to explain an exclamation

"loquacious inanity" = a bunch of gibberish followed by an emotionally charged personal insult

"Asshat Cheney" = a dick, a joke, or both

And my personal favorite:
"PIECE OF CRAP MORON DOWNBRAIN TO THE TOILET" = smartass

Hello. My name is Morpheus Marsh, and i am here to tell you about old political canoe days. We took a jaunt down the river, and lo! the nobleinhabitants of the land arose to greet us, and guide us to the well-tended groves. Hotcha! O mangus, them days was the spost.
Wait aminute i forgot what this thread was about? oh yeah, it was Cheney, well, letsa just say he is not a friend to the noble inhabitants. Got it?

The Really Real1 says, "I've never cared much about debating the greenhouse effect since it's still a controversial subject best left to the experts to resolve. What I care about is the veracity of YOUR conclusions."

Really, Really1, I don't care whether you believe me. You are the one who brought the subject up and have continued to make it your "point."

"Until you can tell me who did this study and what their credentials are I'll conclude that you've simply cherrypicked a dubious source."

I "cherry-picked" the source I did because it was the *lowest* estimate I could find for the degree that H2O is responsible for global warming (GW,) and in order to make the point that CO2 is only 10% of that responsibility for GW. If your refuse to 'get it,' that's fine with me...play the dummy...

How about the fool/fool saying? Did you bother to look it up?

Naw, you're a PPP adherent and only listen to that which your puppet masters tell you, and how to think...

Bye.

You guys are so off-channel, it's pathetic. Why don't you get real lives instead of staring like zombies at your screens. What's with you people, anyway? Is this any way to conduct a town-hall meeting? No, Bob (that's ironic bob),and get off your lazy hoozits and show some pride.

The Really Real1 defines, ""bombastic" = projected pompousness"

Wow, I must have hit a nerve, eh Mr. Obvious?

""guestimate" = to expostulate without any support or any other attempt to explain an exclamation"

Lol, you appear to be a compulsive, obsessive personality...

Say! You're not a Vince by any other name, are you...?

A very weak argument TAD DOWE, for someone who scolded about every other person on this thread for not backing up their arguments with good sources. I will do my own global warming research, time permitting.
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Added to the glossary:
"classic conservative hypocrite" = Tad Dowe
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And finally:
I'd originally intended to make my usual drive-by comment on this thread, but the TADOWE character really piqued my curiosity. What I've learned about TADOWE:

1. He has an overwhelming need to FEEL that he has won every argument.

2. Will use misdirection, cherrypicking, duplicity, and emotional manipulation in order to achieve this FEELING.

3. His mind is much more tuned towards remembering carefully selected details, than it is the abstract or theoretical.

4. Has trouble understanding concepts like "agreeableness" or "reward dependence" (psychological terms), let alone the concept that these things are vital to social societies including at the leadership level.

5. Has been banned from websites (ultra conservative ones included) because of the above.
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Someone who wishes to go up against TAD DOWE would do well to keep this in mind.

My lord, what is the world coming to? You gentlemen are interesting specimens. I could use your own language, and describe you as ? (you fill it in best).

My old chums, I never imagined in my farthest traumas, that you swordsman would feign assail the old man of the 'swamp'?

Thus spake...

And once again, you're way too smart for me TAD DOWE. I am "Vince". I am a lifelong neo-communist who worships the Dark One and I also dabble in islamofascism ...

You "know" the rest ...

OH,ME:

You making fun of the loquaciously inane? You wanna piece of me, punk? Well no luck today, as I've gotta clock out and do the wife's bidding.

TAD DOWE or thepatriot1 may oblige you, however.

Hey, I don't want a piece of you, man, but, umm...about that picture of your wife? Why did you attach that?

Really Really1 says, "A very weak argument TAD DOWE, for someone who scolded about every other person on this thread for not backing up their arguments with good sources."

You 'really' are obsessed with me, personally! First you research the archives at Drudge Retort and now you take my comments out of context and attempt to spin the subject into me; your target of obsession. How long did the Drudge research take? An hour? Two? Or, do you have access to administrative tools for the Retort?

Don't you realize how obvious you are becoming? You even go freudian (if not ballistic):

"And finally: I'd originally intended to make my usual drive-by comment on this thread, but the TADOWE character really piqued my curiosity. What I've learned about TADOWE:"

"Piqued," is it? Now on to the standard PPP tactic of in-depth personal destruction via projection and transference:

"1. He has an overwhelming need to FEEL that he has won every argument."

I reply to those who make comments to, or about me. Scroll up and realize that you started this, Mr. Obvious Oblivious

"2. Will use misdirection, cherrypicking, duplicity, and emotional manipulation in order to achieve this FEELING."

Aw! Did you get manipulated emotionally, Really1? I must have some mystical power to reach out over the internet and force your emotional responses, right? Or, maybe I'm not in control of your 'feelings,' and you are demonstrating just how oblivious you happen to be, Reallyprojecting1?

"3. His mind is much more tuned towards remembering carefully selected details, than it is the abstract or theoretical. 4. Has trouble understanding concepts like "agreeableness" or "reward dependence" (psychological terms), let alone the concept that these things are vital to social societies including at the leadership level. 5. Has been banned from websites (ultra conservative ones included) because of the above.
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Someone who wishes to go up against TAD DOWE would do well to keep this in mind.
"

You are really into embarrassing yourself, aren't you Really?

Really1 confesses, "And once again, you're way too smart for me TAD DOWE. I am "Vince". I am a lifelong neo-communist who worships the Dark One and I also dabble in islamofascism ..."

I didn't know you were a islamofascist, communist worshipper of Satan, Vince...but I can now see why you are so messed up emotionally...

"You 'really' are obsessed with me, personally! First you research the archives at Drudge Retort and now you take my comments out of context and attempt to spin the subject into me; your target of obsession. How long did the Drudge research take? An hour? Two? Or, do you have access to administrative tools for the Retort?"

5 minutes with Google.
The rest exists in your own fantasies.
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"Aw! Did you get manipulated emotionally, Really1? I must have some mystical power to reach out over the internet and force your emotional responses, right? Or, maybe I'm not in control of your 'feelings,' and you are demonstrating just how oblivious you happen to be, Reallyprojecting1?"

LOL. That part of the post was not for you. You're a trip, old man.

I refuse to live in Hate. That is not a town in Arkansas. When I read the terrible things people say about that man Cheney, I think ('yippee!'), but I don't know what I could do about it. That's why I don't live there.

The Really Obsessed1 says, "5 minutes with Google. The rest exists in your own fantasies."

You must have a different google than I do, Really, since I can't find the link you say is there. Please post the google page link -- thanks.

"LOL. That part of the post was not for you. You're a trip, old man.

Sheesh, Mr Oblivious, I know that! It was your projection (apparently a compulsion with you) where you say it was my "FEELING," and while it is yours, all along, when you said:

"2. Will use misdirection, cherrypicking, duplicity, and emotional manipulation in order to achieve this FEELING." thereallyrealpatriot1 | 2005-11-26 10:03 PM | link

You invent what, in your mind, is an insult and describe what would be insulting to you. It is your "feeling(s)" you describe in doing so, and provide a list of what you, yourself, do that would deserve that opprobrium.

You're out of your league, kid.

Noblesse (what a laugh) says, "I am a n00bie to the blog scene. I am shocked by what I see here. So this is how you geeks comport yourselves? I've never seen such a mash-up of disturbed comments in my life. And who is this cad Tadowe? He is totally wack. Based on what I see here, I would deduce that he is a hack for Dick Cheney. It's like, totally obvious."

I love the irony inherent in such efforts to *insult* insulting!

Walking, talking, oxymoronic and completely unconscious examples of an hypocrite...

5 Min opines, "Hey, you can do a lot in five minutes. Who needs admin access? We have the spawn of satan to lead us down the merry primrose path."

Great! Hey, since I don't expect Really1 to provide the link, and since it is so easy for you, could you please provide the google page link to my comments on the Drudge Retort about global warming?

Thanks...

Wow! Rogers is busy removing some spammer's comments. "Someone" should learn their lesson...nah, no chance...

Someone is posting under my name, to confuse the issue.

I can't leave my computer alone for five munutes without someone "usurping"
it.

Sometimes you post a comment, and you wish you could delete it. With all due respect, I was wondering if Mr. Tadowe ever feels that way.

I'm sorry. How to intelligently Google (common sense required).

1. Go to Google advanced search.
2. Put a "unique" phrase into: [Find results with the exact phrase]. In my case it was: "Of the CO2 produced annually".
3. Scan the results for other clues.

That exercise, and cutting and pasting the response from someone monikered "tadowe" took all of 2 minutes. You provided verification with your 2005-11-26 06:38 PM response that both the googled and Workbench "tadowe" responses were yours. Before I ever did that I had a very strong hunch based on patterns seen in your responses to others, that you are full of shit.

The edge I have here is the ability to set aside personal biases to quickly determine where a person is coming from and what makes them tick. While everyone likes to win, the type that must feel they've won at all costs' is relatively rare on the internet and very easy to spot. And fun to toy with.

X is also a big kiss

Somebody loves him.

Karl XXXXXXXXXX

The Really1 confesses, "I'm sorry."

Duh! Tell us something we don't already know.

"3. Scan the results (Google) for other clues."

Okay, then, now we're getting somewhere! Post the link to the Google page which provided you the "clue," Really. Or...maybe you'll try to bluff your lie, again...?

"That exercise, and cutting and pasting the response from someone monikered "tadowe" took all of 2 minutes."

It was "5 minutes" before, and now it is all of "2," eh? Keep up the practice and you'll soon be able to google before you even begin...

"You provided verification with your 2005-11-26 06:38 PM response that both the googled and Workbench "tadowe" responses were yours."

You claim to have discovered the global warming posts on Drudge Retort by searching Google. Okay, fine...so why can't you post the Google link which directed you to the Drudge Retort post I made?

"Before I ever did that I had a very strong hunch based on patterns seen in your responses to others, that you are full of shit."

"Hunch?" What gave you the clue, Swifty? Oh, that's correct -- anyone who isn't a PPP member is "full of shit" to you collectivist hate mongers.

"The edge I have here is the ability to set aside personal biases to quickly determine where a person is coming from and what makes them tick."

I know one thing for sure and certain -- Rogers is embarrassed to be associated, ideologically, with self-serving, petty liars like you. Care to deny that, Rogers?

"While everyone likes to win, the type that must feel they've won at all costs' is relatively rare on the internet and very easy to spot. And fun to toy with."

More unconscious projection! You are a compulsive, obsessive personality, whatever your age...

Do You joins in with the 'projection' project, "Sometimes you post a comment, and you wish you could delete it."

Does this happen to you a lot, or is it just another sophomoric strawman argument from a PPP prevaricator?

"With all due respect, I was wondering if Mr. Tadowe ever feels that way."

I "feel" that any attempt to make me the subject of conversation is an indication of just how intellectually deficient the Leftist posters on this site happen to be -- or at least those that do...

Any other questions?

"Duh! Tell us something we don't already know."
>Every time I corresponded with you I was never wearing any underwear.

"Okay, then, now we're getting somewhere! Post the link to the Google page which provided you the "clue," Really. Or...maybe you'll try to bluff your lie, again...?"
>Follow the instructions. Repeat as required.

"It was "5 minutes" before, and now it is all of "2," eh? Keep up the practice and you'll soon be able to google before you even begin..."
>Those 3 minutes can be our little secret.

"You claim to have discovered the global warming posts on Drudge Retort by searching Google. Okay, fine...so why can't you post the Google link which directed you to the Drudge Retort post I made?"
>I never did. Must have happened during those 3 minutes.

""Hunch?" What gave you the clue, Swifty? Oh, that's correct -- anyone who isn't a PPP member is "full of shit" to you collectivist hate mongers."
>I could show you hate mongering something silly, my little sassypants.

"I know one thing for sure and certain -- Rogers is embarrassed to be associated, ideologically, with self-serving, petty liars like you. Care to deny that, Rogers?"
>I think he's about to lock this thread out of boredom. Or disgust.

"More unconscious projection! You are a compulsive, obsessive personality, whatever your age..."
>Do you think these things are sexy?

The Really1 says, "...[absolutely nothing]..."

You won't post the link, because you can't. You lied about finding the link on Google, and you lied about how long it took you to find the Drudge Retort reference.

And...by golly...that's the point: so many of the Leftists on this blog, and any other you care to name, lie routinely and demonstrate just how incompetent they would be trying to direct this country's affairs. Indeed, I suspect that the majority of those describing themselves as "progressive" are inveterate liars who merely repeat what their collectivist 'friends' say, or are told by the likes of James Carville. They are incapable of reasoning or supporting their calumnies, and so they resort to personal attacks, projecting their hate and drooling.

Wipe your chin, child...

Care to deny that, Rogers?

I don't see the point of the personal back-and-forth exchange that's going on here between a small group of people, but I hadn't considered closing the comments.

I discuss politics because it's fun to chew over this stuff. Trying to convert people to my side, one at a time, is too labor-intensive.

Rogers says, "I don't see the point of the personal back-and-forth exchange that's going on here between a small group of people..."

I prefer discussing the various issues and subjects, myself, but I'm not reluctant to reply to personal attacks.

"I discuss politics because it's fun to chew over this stuff. Trying to convert people to my side, one at a time, is too labor-intensive."

Where do you discuss politics, Rogers? Your discussion seems absent on your own blog; except that you make your point(s) by posting the 'news' and spinning it into a misdirection; e.g., this very thread where Cheney becomes the deserving butt of CNN's editorial failure.

Do you actually know of a site or blog that discusses these issues reasonably, if with 'enthusiasm?'

As for 'converting?' What a laugh! The only interest I have is that those who continue to lie; e.g., Iraq didn't seek enriched uranium from Niger; after reading the facts; will know that they are the liars and hypocrites I might at times characterize them as being...

...and that anyone who is ideologically associated with those lies will be embarrassed by their ignorant calumny. As to that, I am more than gratified that you avoided the question.

How typical is that?

I don't know how much room for serious political discussion this post of Rogers' can provide, but it sure generated a lot of commentary.

I like your birdhead suit, Tadowe.

tadowe,
We could do it together! Would you prefer southern belle with pink parasol or the standard macho leathers? Either way, I'd love a stern hand to show me what's what.
XOXOX

XOXOX was for you, not cheney.

Patria says, "I don't know how much room for serious political discussion this post of Rogers' can provide, but it sure generated a lot of commentary."

Any "serious" political discussion starts with whatever post Rogers makes, if it starts at all. Rogers 'seriously' intended that his part of the discussion would reduce crticism of CNN by mocking any concern over the error and directing it onto the "asshat" victim of CNN's boner (if that is what it was.) The emotional hyperbole and lack of "serious" discussion is the expected result from the Left on his part. Rogers intended to bite, not "chew over" this particular subject.

"I like your birdhead suit, Tadowe."

I can't say the same about your sheep's clothing, anti-Patria

The Really(stupid)1 demonstrates his bigotry, "We could do it together! Would you prefer southern belle with pink parasol or the standard macho leathers? Either way, I'd love a stern hand to show me what's what.
XOXOX
"

It astonishes me that the Left thinks nothing of mocking and reviling the homosexual lifestyle when it suits their purpose to label and insult some victim of their emotional attacks and then turn around and issue their mealymouthed support and sympathy for homosexuality...

What a bunch of unconscious, stupid hypocrites those who do just happen to be...

Not homosexuality, silly. I'm a girl. Sadomasochism.

Thereallyrealpatriot1 says, "Not homosexuality, silly. I'm a girl. Sadomasochism."

What a laugh! You are about the most self-revealing liar I have ever come across...

I'm sure glad that you are of the a representative of what passes for 'progressive' and aren't claiming any 'conservatism.'

Bye.

Tadowe has been doing an awful lot of "chewing" on a lot of different subjects. Maybe he needs some salt to go with his meals.

Thereallyrealpatriot1 has made toast of Tadowe's presumptions.

Tad's always bitching about people making him the subject. Well, it's kinda hard not to. You can't visit this blog without tripping all over Tadowe in the comments.

He hangs around these liberal blogs just to make trouble. And the feathers on his bird suit are looking a little worn. Maybe somebody put salt on his tail.

MMM...BOY says, "Tadowe has been doing an awful lot of "chewing" on a lot of different subjects. Maybe he needs some salt to go with his meals."

Unfortunately, what you have to say is savorless.

"Thereallyrealpatriot1 has made toast of Tadowe's presumptions."

Either you are the same person as the trrp1, or you are about as much of an idiot as he is; as well as a liar. Post one 'presumption' that trrp1 made into 'toast.'

"Tad's always bitching about people making him the subject. Well, it's kinda hard not to. You can't visit this blog without tripping all over Tadowe in the comments."

The 'progressive' idiots can't address the actual subject, or the rebuttal/comments I might make, so they initiate partisan, personal attacks to misdirect, and just as you do here. You just can't resist! It is because of your intellectual shallowness and your inability to change -- you all aren't constitutional conservatives, but you are sure stuck in the mire of your ideological, muddy incompetence.

"He hangs around these liberal blogs just to make trouble. And the feathers on his bird suit are looking a little worn. Maybe somebody put salt on his tail."

Lol! Another multiple nicknamed dufus who has formed an emotional, obsessive attachment to me! Don't you realize just how sick you are...?

I think I'm sick of Tadowe. I did a percentage analysis of Tadowe's word count, and a paltry 12% of it actually pertained to Roger's post. I suggest that Tadowe study this thread long and hard, derive what lessons he can from his intelligent foes, and ignore the rest. If he needs help distinguishing between the two, I will be happy to give him a tutorial.

Rock on the unconscious says, "...I did a percentage analysis of Tadowe's word count, and a paltry 12% of it actually pertained to Roger's[sic] post. I suggest that Tadowe study this thread long and hard, derive what lessons he can from his intelligent foes, and ignore the rest. If he needs help distinguishing between the two, I will be happy to give him a tutorial."

Unconscious, Mr. Anon., because you are the same anonymity under any other name...you know? Like the fragrant rose, your prose smells, if only as sweet. Get it?

All you do, and however much you 'calculate' and spend your time analyzing me, you only display your obsession, in public view.

The 'intelligent' posters, those whose opinion I might respect, don't attack me personally, no matter how insulting they might be in regards to party and ideology, and not that I don't do the same in my generalizations. Those, otherwise potentially intelligent, persons I don't respect are just exactly like you: completely incapable of discussing the subject(s) with reason and who compulsively 'retort' sans reason and ad hominem; pretending to being 'intelligent.'

Grow up.

Tadowe, where would you be without all the stupid people to denigrate? Nowhere. Come on, admit it, you need them, or us, if you prefer.How rarely you have a kind word for any of the posters here. Even nefarious characters like Cheney need some lovin', so why don't you give him some? Or is your heart so shriveled that you can't?

Tadowe says that what I have to say is savorless. That's what you need the salt for, you... (fill in the blank with a perjorative of your choice, people).

Tadowe, I hate to break the news, but no one reads your posts, except your enemies ( I will admit though, that they are numerous). Everyone else just skips your verbosity, and goes on the witty, entertaining posts. Your prose needs a good drubbing, too.

Guilty pleasure says, "Tadowe, where would you be without all the stupid people to denigrate? Nowhere."

I can't make anyone 'stupid,' but I can notice it -- as some script writer said, "Stupid is as stupid does." I certainly don't have some mystical power which makes them attack me, personally, and thereby demonstrate how shallow they actually are.

"Come on, admit it, you need them, or us, if you prefer."

Some other author said, "No man is an island," but I can do without a bunch of punchy foo fighters regurgitating their ignorance for everyone to see. I much more prefer a lively discussion, on point and always have. However, I expect those with any real intelligence know that their party's propaganda is reasonless and contradictory. They know that they can't rebut so they don't, and remain silent while the party dupes attack the common 'enemy' ad hominem. A form of lying-by-omission...

"How rarely you have a kind word for any of the posters here. Even nefarious characters like Cheney need some lovin', so why don't you give him some? Or is your heart so shriveled that you can't?"

I made no defense of Cheney and couldn't care less about his need for any "lovin'." Neither do I feel any need to extend a kind word to those who attempt to dehumanize Cheney, Republicans or myself...and only a petty tyrant, at heart, would infer such a requirement of me; the butt of all your attacks as you, yourself, ignore the subject of this thread.

Indeed, you resemble some blithering idiot to even suggest it, Mr. ShriveledHeartProjectionistAndObsessedJerkoff...

Tadowe says, "Like the fragrant rose, your prose smells, if only as sweet."

Thank you. My prose is a fragrant rose, your prose is a vagrant pose. Or you could put it this way: I'm a rose, and you're a dried-up bunch of dead weeds.

Tadowe, as Gertrude Stein said, "A rose is a rose is a rose." Or to paraphrase the illustrious Dr. Johnson, my prose smells, your prose stinks.

Let's talk about Michelle Malkin and her role as a mouthpiece for right-wing extremism. She doesn't take the party line on every issue, but she must be valuable to any institute she's made a fellow of.

I still find it amazing that she (the daughter of Filipino immigrants), is making a case for racial profiling in the 'War on Terror'.

The Rock quotes, "Tadowe says, "Like the fragrant rose, your prose smells, if only as sweet."

Yes, my error, I got caught up in the original quote. So, I intended to say, "...if only it were as sweet."

The Rock (surprisingly, actually understanding what was meant) says, "...my prose smells (see?), your prose stinks."

A PeeWee Herman retort from the intellectually deficient...

Unfortunately, the Great Narcissus of our time didn't understand my meaning in paraphrasing Dr. Johnson. My prose smells like a rose (see?), Tadowe's prose stinks like Pee-Wee Herman.

(see?)

Michelle Malkin's bio at Townhall.com describes her as a lapsed pianist. I see her as a lapsed humanist.

"a bunch of unconscious, stupid hypocrites"
"You are about the most self-revealing liar I have ever come across"
"multiple nicknamed dufus"
"a bunch of punchy foo fighters"
"you resemble some blithering idiot"
"Mr. ShriveledHeartProjectionistAnd ObsessedJerkoff"
"A PeeWee Herman retort from the intellectually deficient"

>Oh be still my beating heart! Nothing makes me swoon more than a big ol dumb misogynist who'll protect my honor against all them big ol dumb misogynistic islamofascists out there! Take me to bed after abusing me or lose me forever!

"formed an emotional, obsessive attachment to me! Don't you realize just how sick you are...?"
>Oh, Yes! YES! YES!!!

I don't believe it. For the first time in my memory, Tadowe has admitted to an error. I think that qualifies him for a place in the Dissembler's Hall of Fame.

Please don't get emotional, reallyreal1, it's embarrassing.

It looks like he used "Subliminal Flash" (see link) soft to create these messages. It makes the same effect. And it also creates audio subliminal effects that influence human minds, maybe he used not only visual, but also audio effects, that weren't detected?

Personally everyone just need to go
kick rocks and go on with their lives.

sombody write something else funny about this shit

Tadowe,
I hate to admit it, but you were right all along. CNN really did put an X on Cheney.
Get it?

Tadowe, your name is mighty close to a friend of mine that goes to school with me, by the name of

TADAO

and hes very into politics, odd eh>

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I can only hope that all the corrupt high ranking politians & global elite of the world are exposed and dealt with by the people of their country,... in such a way that it would make the 'horrors'they inflicted on us & genarations past look like childs play.
May that time come soon.

Lets just face it the Usa is full of people trying to corupt the system and force ideals onto everyone to further there own personal agenda this is no different from the countless other scandles that have occured over the years...

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