Sarah Palin's Questionable Judgment
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's an up-and-coming Republican leader who could've been an interesting presidential or vice presidential candidate in four or eight years. It is reckless insanity to believe she's ready to step in as commander-in-chief now, particularly to serve a 72-year-old president with health concerns after two bouts with skin cancer and five-and-a-half years' mistreatment as a prisoner of war.
Palin, only two years removed from being the mayor of Wasilla, Alaska (pop. 6,700), had to be told two months ago what the vice president does:
Larry Kudlow of CNBC's Kudlow & Co asked her about the possibility of becoming McCain's ticket mate.
Palin replied: "As for that VP talk all the time, I'll tell you, I still can't answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day?"
Because McCain did so little to familiarize himself with Palin -- he only met her once prior to this week -- and she's a little-known and untested politician from a low-populated state, I have a gut feeling that we're headed for another Thomas Eagleton situation where a vice presidential nominee is dropped before Election Day.
Start looking into Palin's life, as thousands of reporters and activists are now doing, and there's a strong undercurrent of weird. Some of it is charming, Northern Exposure stuff -- her parents were out caribou hunting when news broke of her selection as running mate -- but a lot of it makes you wonder how well anybody in the GOP vetted her. Some of McCain's advisers like Karl Rove are the same geniuses who thought Harriet Miers belonged on the Supreme Court.
One bit of weirdness associated with Palin concerns the birth of her youngest child. As the Alaskan media reported, Palin was attending an energy conference in Texas on April 18 when her water broke four weeks before her due date. After this happened, Palin didn't head to a hospital or even leave the conference, even though the premature rupture of fetal membranes is normally a cause for an immediate examination by an obstetrician, who will observe the fetus on a monitor to guard against infection and other life-threatening complications. Two other reasons for heightened concern were Palin's age, 43, and the fact that prenatal testing indicated the child had Down syndrome.
Palin stayed at the conference and delivered a 30-minute speech, then boarded a 12-hour Alaska Airlines flight from Dallas to Anchorage, neglecting to tell the airline her water had broken -- most airlines won't fly a woman in labor. The motivation for all of this appears to be the Palins' desire that the child be born in Alaska. Her husband Todd told the Anchorage Daily News, "You can't have a fish picker from Texas."
When she arrived home, Palin was hospitalized immediately and the baby was born prematurely after labor was induced in the middle of the night.
Maybe Palin's actions can be written off as Alaskan grit, since she's a macho hunting governor who jogs in freezing temperatures and dines on moose burgers. But as a parent myself, I think the Palins were extremely fortunate that their reckless stupidity did not end in tragedy. As middle-aged parents who already had four kids, the Palins had to be completely familiar with all the things that can go wrong in a pregnancy. One commenter on the Washington Times laid out the enormous risk she was taking:
Airlines are unequipped to handle most emergencies at 30,000 feet, particularly the kind Palin put her unborn child at markedly increased risk for. These emergencies include birthing a premature infant or uncontrolled maternal bleeding. This was her FIFTH pregnancy and delivery can happen rapidly and unexpectedly. The baby or Palin could easily have died.
In the ADN article Palin downplays her decision to fly, implying traveling was reasonable as she wasn't in labor. If so, then why was she immediately hospitalized after returning to Alaska? Why was there an induced delivery of a 36-week infant by 6:30 am soon after her return? Again, ask any OB doctor. Induced delivery of a premature infant ALWAYS indicates a problem. The two most likely would be fetal infection, (a likely event given her failure to seek meaningful medical attention for her baby) or fetal distress by monitor.
Ask your OB doctor if the risks Palin took with the life of her unborn child are risks they would have advised for ANY reason.
I'm sure that some people will consider raising this subject a cheap shot, since the child was born healthy and it all worked out for the Palins. But you have to question the judgment of a person who took so many risks with her life and that of her baby.
Update: People who are spreading the cruel rumor about Palin's pregnancy and her daughter should read this April 27 blog entry from a woman who shared a commercial flight out of Fairbanks, Alaska, with the governor in March. Elizabeth Eubanks writes that Palin was "pregnant (she has since had her baby) with bags and daughter in tote." A search of Google's cache confirms this entry has been unchanged since April.
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There's a phrase "Catholic suicide" which refers to when depressed Catholics becoming "mishap prone" and their deaths ruled as accidents.
It may be that by taking such extreme risks Palin was attempting a "Fundamentalist abortion".
Could you please check your liberal feelings for a minite? Please your are trying to discredit this woman because she causes real concern for the Obama campaign. She has more experience in politics than Obama, even if it is at a local level. And she has been in a leasdership role, unlike Barrack Hussien Obama. If Obama thinks that his "experience as a community organizer" qualifies him, then why would her experience as a mayor, and memeber of the PTA not qualify her just as much. And as far as a heart beat away from the Presidency, Obama wants to be the president, and he has no foreign policy experience. Or wait let me see, I'll bet that you are counting his years growing up overseas, and the short trip that he took a few weeks back. If so then I'll go with the one who hunts and fishes and is a life long memeber in the NRA. No doubt she can handle her own. And she, not Obama is the one with the track record of fighting corruption and not associating herself with people like that. Can Obama say the same thing...oops Rev. Wright....oops Bill Ayers....oops Rezco, and let's not forget who is pulling the strings for Obama, Mayor Daley, a family whose name and political corruption are one in the same. And as far as her judgement with regards to her child, she kept the child when others would have aborted the baby. Where does Obama stand on that issue, he's in favor of infanticide. But he's the one, the messiah right? More like he is the antichrist.
Chad......if you live in NOLA wait for GUSTAV, that's all I have to say, hopefully.....
The running off and hospitalizing and inducing for the rupture of membranes is just more of that panicked way of viewing labor and delivery. I wouldn't think too much of it. (I'm not a supporter of Palin, but that is for POLITICAL reasons. Not this poke around how views pregnancy and delivery nonsense.)
Obama got his degree in international relations and has had four years of foreign policy experience as a member of the foreign relations committee. That's not zero foreign policy experience. It's certainly more than what Bush had when he became president. He also managed to predict all of the things that have gone wrong with regard to foreign policy well before even some of the most seasoned and experienced politicians ever even had a thought about the mess that has been created.
Who on this planet would abort their baby just because it wasn't going to be born in the state they wanted it to be born? Your statement is absolutely moronic. The fetuses that are aborted are those that are not wanted. Republicans love to make life more difficult for the little guy so as to make it almost impossible to afford to birth and care a child. You'll never stop abortions whether legal or illegal. The best you can do is create a situation where people won't be forced to choose between abortion or bringing your child up in poverty.
Of course, the messiah thing... Just like the other Republicans, you have no arguments for your own policies, only attacks against character. I understand though. You could never win in a policy debate. It's all you got left. I don't blame your for your desperation.
Of course, that behavior makes more sense if viewed through the prism of the rumor (I emphasize, rumor) that the baby was actually her granddaughter. Her 16 year old daughter is rumored to have missed several months of high school before that baby was born, Palin never really showed her (supposed) pregnancy, and the panicky attempt to get back to Alaska makes a lot more sense that way.
I realize this is all unfounded speculation and shouldn't be given any credence, but it kind of hangs together in a weird way.
Carlos......i dont know where you are, but if you are in my country then you need to go home. Or go play in traffic, hopefully...you miserable mestizo.
In response to Fernando's question of who would abort a baby because of the state that it would be born; some studies estimate (there is no firm data) that as many as 90% of pregnancies are terminated after finding out that the child will be born with Down Syndrome. I think those that choose to do that would fall into the category or "not wanting" the child.
As a medical professional who lives in Anchorage, I can safely assure you that this situation did in fact occur, and was reported in the April 22, 2008 Anchorage Daily News (www.ADN.com).
The medical community here in Anchorage was horrified of the news of this "heroic" adventure of Governor Palin. It was an incredibly egregious decision that risked the life of Palin's unborn child. It also set a poor example for others to follow....a public safety issue.
Several well-respected physicians spoke with my physician husband on different occasions and came up with the same conclusion: she was trying to kill the baby. No other reasonable explanation could be derived from this act of shear stupidity and shameless self-promotion. A Down's child would forever be a burden to her; many have already criticized her insatiable need for a national level political position over the necessity of raising a special needs child.
"Obama got his degree in international relations and has had four years of foreign policy experience as a member of the foreign relations committee."
NO, he actually had 140 days experience before he started campaigning for President. You must be getting his experience mixed up with his Aunty Joe who will be the new shadow president in the great style of Dick Cheney.
Wonderful!
Rogers sets the stage, and DBT delivers the partisan, political punchline! This is so revealing of your positioning vis a vis the DNC propaganda poop-shoot. Are you two well acquainted?
Of course, this "rumor" has nothing at all to do with politics, much less demonstrate anything at all to do with the nation's security or economics. Notice that the sensitively hypocritical Left will not hesitate to call anyone names who might mention a Democrat's children negatively, but spend years reviling a Republican president's daughters.
Indeed! You can depend on Democrats to start the "Rumor Mill" to defame and revile the other "team"; as if "winning" with their yellow-dog candidate is more important than our constitution or national security, and also revealing that their "sensitivity" is a flat out lie, too!
Disgusting tactics, and disgusting politics.
Palin's leadership experience is 4 years greater than is Obama's: fact. Neither have foreign relations experience, but one supports the defense of our nation using a strong military and taking the fight to our enemy... and the other one wants to quit when the uncooperative, antipatriotic Democrats start to whine and moan about the expense, and continue doing so for years, and with the goal of letting the enemy succeed. That's just another demonstration of what partisanly selfish misers they just happen to be as a collective.
The real difference is in the fact that Obama is running for president, sans experience, while the other is running for vice president, and not the world's strongest nation's leader. She will certainly have time to gain that experience as vice president.
Actually, that is the main fear now, and why yellow-dogs will continue to revile and defame another human being for team over nation - they fear that with 4 years of experience and a successful vice presidency, that she would beat Hillary, hands-down, next time around!
"Several well-respected physicians spoke with my physician husband on different occasions and came up with the same conclusion: she was trying to kill the baby."
Whoa! Aren't you into the "sensitive" smear-line? It was her daughter's bastard child! Are you dense?
No, certainly not! A physician's wife, at minimum, has a sense of economic worth ... so you're just putting some extra innuendo salad out there for the it-doesn't-have-anything-to-
do-with-anything buffet!
Upper-class, physician's wife level, elitist rumor mongering!
This, of course, illustrates what the term "Progressive" actually means to those with an eye to see ...
TADOWE, you need a serious reality and fact check about experience. Does serving on the city council for a town with a population of under 7,000 is experience, does that set the foundation for foreign policy? Does serving as mayor of a town with a population under 7,000 provide the real experience to step into the role of President if needed?
Obama has:
1. Served as president of the Harvard Law Review
2. Served in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004 (that's SEVEN years)
3. He was elected to the Senate in November 2004 (that's FOUR years of experience)
As a member of the Democratic minority in the 109th Congress, he helped create legislation to control conventional weapons and to promote greater public accountability in the use of federal funds. He also made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. During the 110th Congress, he helped create legislation regarding lobbying and electoral fraud, climate change, nuclear terrorism, and care for returned U.S. military personnel.
Palin has:
1. Served on Wasilla City Council from 1992 to 1996
2. Served as Mayor of Wasilla from 1996 to 2002
3. Served as Govenor of Alask from 2006 to current
Obama's got significantly more experience with the skills needed to run our country. Biden balances AND strengthens the ticket.
One month ago, Sarah Palin did not know what the daily role of the VP was.
Is it in the best interest of our country to have someone with lightweight experience doing a job for which she didn't even know what the responsibilities were? Answer's crystal clear to me.
Obama lacks executive experience? What are you crazy? (Or just partisan!)
He has now run 3 large ad hoc enterprises that would be considered masterful if they were entirely in the business world.
His first enterprise was running a Senate campaign against the Chicago machine. Barack WAS NOT supposed to be the candidate for Senator the year he won it. The Chicago machine had picked someone else. Barack put together a machine and thru what can only be considered masterful executive management, by all but partisans, he reached his goal.
His second enterprise was putting together an election machine that took on one of the biggest machines in American politics today. He took on the Clinton's and the DLC. By all measures, this was significantly more difficult and more profound than running the state of Alaska. Again, simply masterful executive experience.
His 3rd enterprise is more accurately an outgrowth of the second one. He's doing better now against one of the best well oiled machines in American history: The Republican party. Nearly all the big money interests in America (the corporations) and the ruling elite all want the other guy. His leadership continues to be masterful as his enterprise is taking on all of these groups, and he is winning.
No executive experience? This is just crazy. It's obvious to *anyone who steps back and looks at what he has done, that this guy is masterful in his leadership skills, AKA administrative skills, AKA management skills, AKA Executive skills. And I'm not even including the leadership he demonstrated in the boroughs of Chicago as he tried to help the unemployed get jobs.
These campaigns meet the definition of a small business and even of a big business.
*to anyone without a personal interest in the other guy, who starts with a conclusion then goes looking for facts to support that conclusion.
All these bizarre rumors--but I guess you should expect it when an unknown is injected into the presidential race. I don't really care whether Palin subconsciously wanted that poor baby to die, or if she used her influence to fire her brother-in-law. As a moderate Republican woman, I was looking forward to casting my vote for McCain in the fall. I expect two things of a president: Keep us safe and keep our taxes reasonably low. I believed I could trust McCain to do both. His selection of Palin--who is probably a nice woman but clearly in over her head--tells me that McCain is more concerned about throwing red meat to the party's evangelical base than he is with keeping us safe. I am shocked and furious. Guess I'll throw my vote away on the Libertarians as a protest. I can't support the Dems because of higher taxes, and I would never trust Palin with national security at this dangerous time in our history.
Erica, If you think McCain will keep us safe, you've been listening to your preachers or watching Faux News too much.
Violence against American interests have skyrocketed since we invaded Iraq. Membership in Al Quiada continues to grow massively.
The first Al Quiada attack on American soil was in 1993. The second one in 2001. That's 8 years. So if you think Bush has been wonderful for America because there has been no Al Quiada attacks in 7 years, then you must love Clinton for the 8 years he did the same thing.
I suspect you don't love Clinton for this, nor should you. Time is not the measure. The Sunni's and the Shiites have been warring for 1000 years.
So please, look at reality, not time. Look at the world and look at the billions we are wasting. If those billions had been invested in solar and wind, we would already be energy sufficient, and this would impoverish the Arabs states that need our money to fund their terror.
A 3rd Bush administration is the exact opposite of what we need to do for the safety of nation.
Oh, and as for taxes, reality tells us that Republcian have never lowered taxes for the overwhelming majority of Americans, only for the rich. Republicans are very good at shifting taxes. Shifting those taxes to the middle class, shifting those taxes to the states, and shifting those taxes to local property taxes. And shifting those taxes to the future. At the end of RR's 8 years, taxes for the overwhelming majority of Americans were substantially higher. They were substantially lower for only one group. The rich.
When you study tax rates, you cannot consider ONLY federal income taxes. When you study ALL the taxes that ALL the people pay, including fees and what not, Republicans have always managed to shift them onto the middle class.
The only party that has lowered taxes for common people, when you consider ALL the taxes that common Americans pay, is the Democratic party. Don't swallow the propaganda. Look at ALL the taxes and fees. Add them ALL up.
And don't forget the price of gasoline, the costs of inflation, and other costs.
When you look at the entire picture, it's the Democratic party that has helped the common people, who are the real backbone of this nation.
Erm.. so, what is the daily role of a vice president? Apart from being there as a backup if something goes wrong with the no 1?
That and being a tie-breaker if needed in the Senate are not describing what a VP actually has to do most days in the year :)
Oh, and that 90% figure on Down abortions might be a bit inflated, it doesn't count the people at risk who don't want to get tested early in the pregnancy.
Neither of these comments should be seen as endorsements of Palin BTW.
Ummm - she's light on experience, but she's got a lot more than Obama. Politics aside, he's spent his brief career working very hard to not vote on much at all.
If you want to argue that Palin is a lightweight on experience, then you should feel even more nervous about Obama.
Erica,
Why do you like Republicans if you're interested in avoiding higher taxes? In 2000-2008 entitlements increased by a factor eight and the national debt became astronomical. Most of this increase came during 2000-2004 when Republicans controlled both houses of Congress. Half of the wealth created in the last eight years under Republican leadership has accrued to the richest 0.25% of Americans. That injustice and callousness is a policy for disaster. Now our grandchildren owe the government $200K each on the day that they're born. Count this up for a family of three children and nine grandchildren. They don't have a better educational system because Republicans want to test schools instead of improving teacher student ratios. They don't have an energy conservation policy because Republicans want to let the market take care of it (i.e. not increase auto mileage standards for cars since 1983 and exempt light trucks and SUVs). They don't have a sound banking system because Republicans believe that banks should be able to concoct fradulent schemes dreamed up to enrich their CEOs. They don't have clean air to breath in our major cities because the Republicans relax clean air standards. They don't have jobs because Republicans give tax breaks to companies that send jobs overseas. All our familes have to show for Republican financal extravagance is that they can go look at the big homes owned by rich people whose "welfare for the rich" policy enabled them to own five or more houses as big as the small hotels I can afford to stay at. Republicans are good at labeling Dems as "tax and spend" when in reality Republicans should be called "borrow and spend more to benefit super-rich people." Four more years of this will be the end of America as we know it. Everyone should take heed. All Republicans should be voted out of office.
For those who haven't heard, it appears likely that she was never pregnant (try and find a picture of her showing - there aren't any). Her 16 year old daughter on the other hand started "showing" in December, and was suddenly pulled out of school with "mono" for five months. Get the picture? The gov has a new granddaughter but she's pretendng it's hers for "family honor." This will be in the mainstream media soon.
Maybe she was able to take the risk because it was her 16 year old daughter that was in labor, not her. Plently of rumours flying here in Alaska, best bring yourself up to speed.
Why would labor be induced if the waters had broken?
Ummm - she's light on experience, but she's got a lot more than Obama.
I can't believe people can say that with a straight face. Twenty months ago she was mayor of a town of 6,700 people. There are more than 100 cities in Illinois larger than that.
Mrs. Palin is a tough and wonderful lady. I hope her personal life is not mauled over by the press. She is ok and I say to leave her alone to be even stronger for our country. Maralyn
Unless, or course, she wasn't pregnant. Rushing home to be there for your daughter's early labor would be a commendable reason to get on that plane.
For your own labor, or even labor possibility, it was an horrendous reason to get on that plane.
But then again, horrible judgment just might be a requirement for a Republican candidate nowadays.
David Perfect,
There is only one reason labor would be induced if the water had broken. And that would be if the baby were in trouble or if you were near 9 months already.
At 7 months, the goal would be to prevent active labor for as many days and weeks as possible.
Thus, the very poor judgment Gov Palin showed by getting on that plane.
Regarding Palin's baby, here's a shocking update to this breaking story.
Oh, wait, wrong year.
The baby was never in danger because he never left Alaska. You do the math.
Can someone PLEASE tell me -- if the Republicans guarantee me lower taxes and I have to pay $5 a gallon in gas and therefore can't fill up my tank to get to work, but then my company outsources my job to India and the bank forecloses on my home, then the Republicans borrow Billions of dollars from the Chinese to finance a war in Iraq that my brother died in, and we end up staying in Iraq for 100 years and Russia gets irate with us and moves atomic missiles into Cuba, while my grandma in New Orleans STILL doesn't have a home to live in after 3 years and I turn 65 and try to retire only to be told that my 401k has lost 85% of its value but the CEO of the money market fund I was invested in is in jail while his CFO just bought a mansion on an island in the Caribbean and my Social Security "entitlement" is only $125 a month --- then just HOW MUCH money do I have each month to live on?
Mark & David,
Clearly you men know nothing about labor & birth. If a woman's labor does not progress after her water breaks she will be induced to prevent infection, which poses a serious risk to the baby.
-Sue, who won't vote for Palin because of her positions on the ISSUES!
www.babycenter.com
You forgot to mention how our roads and our schools are collapsing. And how our property taxes and local fees are skyrocketing.
And how the National debt is exploding and will need to be paid for by our kids.
Again, people, reality tells us that Republicans lower taxes only for the rich. They shift them to everyone else, and they shift them to our kids. We now have 30 years of data proving this, but you won't get this from the corporate media. And after they pass Net Neutrality, you won't get this info from the internet either.
When Federal tax rates go down, state taxes and local taxes invariably have to go up to compensate the lack of federal assitance in local projects. This is how the world works. So when Bush lowers taxes, primarily for the rich, that burden gets pushed to non progressive taxes that hurt the middle class.
It's a fact that this has happened and the data on the Bush administration's doing this is just now coming together.
The data on how the Reagan administration, and the first Bush administration did exactly this is out there and clearly shows this.
And the collapse of our schools... We will pay for this and we will pay dearly for this.
Do you think the Republican leaders are destroying our schools on purpose in order to turn us all back into low paid assembly line workers? Is this their plan to deal with the progress going on in China.
Can anyone thin of a better explanation?
As an American expat who has lived in Australia for quite a while, I am often in the position of explaining the whys and wherefores of American politics to people here. This latest event has caused me some challenge both as a supporter of the US democratic process and the presidential system (we have parliamentary politics here where the parties select their leaders after voters put their representatives into office) and as a woman.
I found it shocking that John McCain chose Sarah Palin in the first place because it seemed such a cynical attempt to woo votes due to their gender. Frankly, I was insulted.
I am also a mother and find Palin's views and behaviour quite contradictory. While she is pro life (I am pro choice so disagree with her there) and extols the value of every child, she chose to go back to work 3 days after Trig's birth. Now she is going to be on the presidential campaign trail for months. If she was a man, I guess I'd also be wondering how the family was coping.
After the births of my 3 children, I wanted to stay home as long as possible. Although I did go back to work after all of them I have always struggled to maintain a balance between family and work commitments and really don't find it easy. I think that most women don't.
As I learn more about her, I find her attitude towards her family and others quite irresponsible. Not only did Sarah Palin put her baby and herself at risk by getting on that plane, she put the other passengers at risk too. Having a baby on an airplane would require a great deal of assistance from crew and possibly an emergency landing en route. Her judgement affects more than just herself.
As for her experience in the 'executive,' her world is a long way from the world of Washington, DC and international politics.
I question her ability to make logical and informed decisions under pressure.
Obama may have some deficiencies but along with Biden, I think his ticket is the more stable one to make big decisions for all of us.
I THINK SHE IS THE BEST,I WANT A RUCKY LIKE HER,SHE IS GOING TO BE THE BEST VICE PRESIDENT EVER.
SHE IS GOING TO GET RID OF ALL THE LOBBY IN WASHINGTON,I FELT GREAT YESTERDAY ,LIKE BEING BORN AGAIN
Susan reasons (how refreshing), "... Does serving on the city council for a town with a population of under 7,000 is experience, does that set the foundation for foreign policy?"
No one said it did. Your strawman argument is so obviously a misdirection.
"Does serving as mayor of a town with a population under 7,000 provide the real experience to step into the role of President if needed?"
It provides more *leadership* (hello?) experience than Obama has. Is it impossible for you to recognize that, at any level of understanding?
"Obama has: 1. Served as president of the Harvard Law Review"
Editorial experience, and which is a non-sequitur (if not another obvious misdirection).
"2. Served in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004 (that's SEVEN years)"
Which provides him with what? What laws did Obama propose? What laws did Obama vote on? What laws has Palin proposed, or made decisions about? In reality, the legislative experience isn't pertinent to either president or vice presidental positions; however enhancing it may be on a lobbyist's resume.
"3. He was elected to the Senate in November 2004 (that's FOUR years of experience)"
As has been already observed, he has 140 actual days of legislative experience, and again, what laws has Obama proposed/sponsored, what laws has he voted on? Those are certainly pertinent questions as to his qualifications for the office, but has no relationship to Palin's. Nice triple threat sleight-of-hand, misdirection, though.
"As a member of the Democratic minority in the 109th Congress, he helped create legislation to control conventional weapons and to promote greater public accountability in the use of federal funds."
Palin is supportive of the 2d Amendment ... so? I'll bet you won't chance a wager on whether Palin might have proposed greater accountability in spending? Since she already has, and quite famously? No, you just weren't thinking about that ... as is the habit with shallow progressives.
As I've mentioned more than just once, you partisans-uber-nation are destroying the Democratic party ... which used to be one of patriotism and defense of liberty around the world. Now, you whiners have turnd it into a party of quitters for votes; party over nation war profiteers for votes.
The whole nation is disgusted ... and you'll soon see the results of your partisan, Progressive cupidity ...
Sue,
I work in healthcare and know full well that the majority of the time childbirth is induced when the water breaks.
But when the baby is 2 months early, they would try to postpone labor.
My wife went into labor 2 months early and they tried to delay labor. I was there. I saw it. I watched the drugs get placed in her IV. In fact, I helped insert that IV.
In this day and age, in this circumstance, the mother would get admitted to the hospital and both the baby and the mother would be put on monitors. The baby thru it's scalp. If contractions started, serious consideration would be made to stop it, like in the case of my wife. (We had twins and they are perfect.)
They would stay like this for days or weeks, as long as both remained fine.
There are some reports that Palin was 8 months pregnant and not 7 months. At 8 months they would likely induce, but at 7, they would likely NOT.
But if she were 8 months, there is not an Obstetrician on the planet who would approve of Gov Palin flying to Texas with a Down's baby in her Uterus and being over 40 years old.
The more I read about this birth the more I am appalled by her judgment. The only way I would be relieved would be to find out that she was not the one pregnant and this was but a cover story to protect her child. But then it wouldn't be a judgment issue, it would be an honesty issue. She'd of been better off saying zip, nada, nothing. The new baby could have entered her household with nothing being said.
Oh, and thanks for the link to babycenter.com. Although it is written by lay people, I still think what this article points out is the imperative to go to the hospital when your water breaks. And it reinforces Palin's poor judgment in this case.
However, your apparent conclusion that this article states such cases need be induced in all cases is not correct. It makes no such blanket statement.
And I won't vote for Palin because of her stand on the issues as well. But McCain has made a great big thing about judgment. It's been a cornerstone of his campaign. Personally, I think he has shown poor judgment over and over. Picking Palin is just another example of that poor judgment.
The selection of Palin is patently absurd. I am insulted as a woman the more I read about her measurements, oops...work experience. I have haunting images of a 3 am call to her when McCainiac is routinely retooled and she asks Who? Where?
If the grandson theory is correct, publically living the lie would guarantee emotional sickness to the family. How would this relate to her professional duties?
It is time for Right to Life to profoundly consider the parameters of the unintended consequences of zealotry.
Consider the life of the mother on the front lines of a war of greed.
We must live in the world of reality.
ugh, unsubscribe from anything rogers cadenhead, forever.
"The more I read about this birth the more I am appalled by her judgment."
Here is the crux of the whole Progressive hypocrisy - it is perfectly okay, and a sound judgement to terminate the birth of your unborn fetus for personal, however selfish, reasons, but it is some sort of horrible crime against judgement to "endanger" the life of a fetus (but only if a member of the opposition party - otherwise, if a Democrat or even a moderate, it might be for the "best").
You all literally cannot see yourselves, as the normal half of America observes you! Bald faced hypocrites who can be counted on for one thing - you'll revile and dehumanize for votes ...
Next, along with the marble columns and wildly gesticulating crowd, you'll have some slogan to go along with the goosestepping agreement to hate and despise your anti-socialist opponents.
How about, "Victory for Welfare!"?
This is nothing but a cheap shot by a Cadenhack.
I guess your idea of good judegemnt is befreinding unrepentant terrorists, making anti American hate mongers your spiritual leader, and getting invovled with convicted felons on shady land deals.
You're nothing but a leftwing pawn Rogers.
"ugh, unsubscribe from anything rogers cadenhead, forever."
I must disagree with your decision. I think Rogers is one of the more reasonable yellow-dog-Democrats; as oxymoronic as that might sound. Indeed, I think his presentation of an opportunity to answer the propaganda he feels it necessary to pass on to the public is admirable. Many of his referenced sites, here and the Drudge Retort, moderate and won't even allow my comments! It is a credit to Rogers' basic honesty that he supports the debate.
Besides that, he has made himself a success, and not depended on a business, or service to provide justification for his self-worth (not that doing that is any sin, mind you). I admire that, also. His 'stuff' is excellent, and he promises endless help in the field of his expertise.
His support of his politics is shy and timid, though, and which hesitancey means, I'm sure, that he can't be rotten to the normal yellow-dog-core, either ... there's some chance to hope for his mind after all, and however faint ...
Sarah Palin received the Down Syndrome diagnosis in Dec. 2007 (four months pregnant) according to this article:
www.celebrity-babies.com
This water breaking / daughter's baby shiite is just another load of stupid liberal crap.
I thought you libs were all for "women"?
I guess you are as long as they abort their "fetuses", huh?
What a joke!
"If the grandson theory is correct, publically living the lie would guarantee emotional sickness to the family."
But, having two moms or dads for parents is life sustaining and a boost to the social standing of any child of that make-believe marriage ...
You hypocrites are totally unconscious and such inveterate, backstabbing whiners it defies description ... how can you stand the stink your collective exudes?
All signs point to this being the 16 year old daughter's baby. YIKES.
I feel terribly for the Palin family. At least explains the creepy, awkward vibe they are giving off...and I can now feel sympathy rather than disgust. She is an undereducated rookie* caught in a web of lies and hubris. It's Edwards all over again.
(*by contrast, Obama graduated with his political/international relations degree from Columbia in '83, and has spent the intervening 25 years studying the law at Harvard, managing their prestigious Law Review, working at a top NYC think tank, acting as a civil rights attorney, lecturing on Constitutional law, working in community organizing, and serving in then State and then Federal Senates...I'd love to be this inexperienced.)
This is my first time visiting this site, and I won't be back. Your post is absolutely sick.
Have you no shame at all? Where's your sense of decency?
C'mon guys. We're shooting ourselves in the foot. Look at the contrasts people will be able to draw to the undecided voters based on this attituded.
From Colmes' linke to your story (a commenter wrote):
Of course, Alan, had she went to a medical provider who crushed the baby's head with forceps and vacuumed out the fragments and remaining tissue, she'd be a progressive exercising her reproductive choice, right?
And if during such procedure, the fetus were to emerge live born, Barak Obama would support the right of the physicians to let it die on the table.
But you want to talk about her prenatal care in conformance with the advice of her personal physician.
The last thing we need is someone to provide an easy segway to the most difficult aspect (late term) of choice policy to support to the moderate voters. Palin and McStain have POLICY problems. POLICY issues we clean their clock with.
Ugh.
"Palin and McStain have POLICY problems. POLICY issues we clean their clock with."
What a chance to mention even just one (1) of those ... but faint heart n'er won fair maiden ... (if you're a mom pair, or a dad pair that so elevates their children's social status above Palin's, and so assists their mental well being, then ignore the last comment ...)
Mickey:
The only reason Barack Obama voted against that bill was because he, as an educated Constitutional scholar, recognized baiting and slippery-slope language intended to violate the rights of pro-choice individuals in this country.
Sorry but...majority rule...minority rights. This is as the founding fathers would have it be.
These horrific procedures are incredibly rare and do not occur in casual or opportunistic circumstances.
Why can't right wingers see that there is no difference between your right to bear arms and a woman's right to make decisions for her body? it is using the government to protect our rights, not infringe upon them.
It is then up to us to moderate the misuse of guns and abortions by screwed up people, and keep loss of life to a minimum.
Folks,
The words in the block quote aren't mine.
They are a comment over at Alan Colmes.
"Visitor" I am afraid I cannot begin to get the cryptic point of your post. I'm not going to go on a list of the policy issues here. I've been doing that all day elsewhere.
But to my dismay, my fellow travelers want to do stupid things like suggest this lady was trying to kill the child based on innuendo and the like. And its generating comments, like those I quoted, that I believe are going to resonate to our peril with the undecideds that will decide this election. I happen to agree with Barak Obama's position on the bill in question. But if you guys cannot see how questioning this woman's pre-birth behavior simply lobs a slow-ball over the plate for the 'pugs to parlay into more discussion of their characterization of the "doctors 'right' to let live born abortion fetuses die on the table" smear, then you guys are just dense.
And since when do we second guess this stuff. That's the purview of the fundies on the right. Its very unseemly. I personally know a dozen people who returned to work early, or who didn't breastfeed, or who took a business or education related trip even though it was risky in the last few weeks of a pregnancy.
Since we are not privy to the discussions between THIS woman and HER doctor, we should shut the hell up.
My $0.02 but feel free to shout me down. The progress of progressives has not been on display lately. Just a lot of hate and vitriol.
"... Barack Obama ... an educated Constitutional scholar, recognized (the) language intended to violate the rights of pro-choice individuals in this country."
There is no constitutional language defining a woman's right to abortion. In that regard, the right to do murder was not given as a right to the federal government in the constitution; however, it was not thereby granted to the states or individuals, either. The court has no legal ability to construct a "right" which has been universally banned in every civilized society; before the present where an elitist socialism practiced by a subversive few on the SC invented such a right to infanticide; calling it "choice".
Now, the scurrilous idiots think that murder after birth is some sort of legitimate "right" to debate ...
How about those who are selfishly using up SS benefits? Why shouldn't there be a "right" for the government to put them out of their expensive misery? What a burden! Worse than an infant!
Support the Right to End the Misery of the Old and Useless
We Did It for Abortion We Can Do It for Euthanasia
"Sorry but...majority rule...minority rights. This is as the founding fathers would have it be."
They indicated that this would be the decision of states and the citizens of those various states of the republic. Your efforts are to deny any such decision by the people and the states. That's SC tyranny supported by the selfish desire not to be burdened with children, but unwilling to take the steps necessary to preculude such occurences. The drafter's of our constitution wanted the people to decide by vote ... not SC declaration of a right that the vast majority of the world's civilizations had banned, up until then ...
"These horrific procedures are incredibly rare and do not occur in casual or opportunistic circumstances."
Sure, sure, it only occurs at the selfish decision of the person carrying the child ... then, the skull is shattered and the brains sucked-out to accomplish a murder of a viable human being.
That's it ... you all are such disgusting, self-excusing, amoral sociopaths ... it is sickening to realize that it is your kind's immorality which caused the zealots of Islam to attack the USA; they see our corruptions as proving we are the "Great Satan".
Progressives have caused the terrorism of Islam with their infanticide, state torture of the handicapped, homosexuality and their other constant immoralities ... not buying oil ... but you blinkered Equus asinii are braying to loud to hear the truth ...
Instead, you attack fellow Americans, calling them fascists and nazis. You attack fellow Americans, calling them warmongers and racists. You attack fellow Americans in support of the very enemy we are fighting in wanting to quit and let them have the victory ... just so Democrats can make a few votes out of their anti-patriotic betrayal. And ... they undermine the success of that war for 4 years, wanting to resign, quit, give-up and surrender to terrorism.
What despicable partisans Progressives have become in their socialistic urge for power ...
So, let me get this straight. You support a woman's right to choose an abortion. But you do not support a woman's right to choose a flight to Alaska.
Wow.
As a Republican, I hope you keep pushing this attack. But as a human being, I hope you develop a basic sense of decency.
Scum attack by a left wing hack. More is on the way.
""Visitor" I am afraid I cannot begin to get the cryptic point of your post. I'm not going to go on a list of the policy issues here. I've been doing that all day elsewhere."
Please, who are you fooling? There aren't any major differences, except the security of our nation in providing for stable democracy in the ME. Democrats wish to abandon one such democracy in order for it to be a "loss" for a Republican president and result in the votes that can be garnered from "winning" by losing in Iraq.
The other issues are so filled with angst, that you Progressives don't dare bring them up, and since they have absolutely no sense to them, whatsoever ... increasing taxes for a supposed recession, for instance ... how stupid do you think all Americans are?
...and, is that the purpose of our socialized public school system? To utterly destroy the level of knowledge of the children of the USA? A union and progressive plot to create a society of mindless sheep?
Then, you patronizing prigs can rule without fear of revolt, since you will have removed all guns along and have society divided into male-male and female-female parented families ...
What a communist paradise that will be ... all the unaccountable sexual license possible, and abortion on demand until the fetus is 18 ... or over 75 ...
How disgusting to comment on Palin's delivery. Have you ever given birth? Yes, once the water breaks, there is an increased chance of infection. Do you have any idea as to how many ways there are to reduce the risk? The baby had no infection which means she did all the right things. Until you have the desire to learn what being a woman means, you have no right to critize or pretend you understand. It's time for you to shut your mouth about being a woman and accept us.
This article and most of these comments are amazing in their hypocrisy.
Since when do a bunch of liberals give the first crap about an unborn baby?
It would be amusing if it weren't so pathetic and disgusting.
Have you ever given birth?
My wife and I have three kids, and we've recently had a close relative whose newborn struggled with Group B strep but was fortunate enough to fight off the infection after weeks of struggle.
I knew I was lining myself for an ass-kicking by broaching this subject, but I think the Palins' decision was so unorthodox (and unsafe) it merited scrutiny. Sarah Palin aspires to be one heartbeat from the button. Her bizarre actions in a personal health crisis worked out fine, but they make me wonder what other weirdness will be uncovered in the vetting she never got from the McCain campaign.
"Her bizarre actions in a personal health crisis, though in hindsight worked out just fine, make me wonder what other weirdness will be uncovered in the vetting she never got from the McCain campaign."
Ahem...begs the question? Your logical flaws are showing, as well as your clear, liberal bias. How do you know for a FACT that she never got vetted? Hmm?
You should worry about your own candidate's problems. At least Sarah Palin never allowed an unrepentant terrorist to blog on her campaign website.
Interestingly, I found articles in websites involving Gov. Palin, L. Green , Stevens, Moynehan and her ex-brother-in-law, "scrubbed, removed and/or no longer available for view. Hmmm. "Vintage" Republican philosophy, "cover it up and by any means necessary".
Look, McCain is a 72 year old cancer survivor who appointed Gov Palin as V.P. who is without foreign policy experience, relatively unknown and has the "Troopergate" investigation" hanging in the wings. Now,, it is rumored that her infant son may not be hers but her daughter's? Something is very, very shady in regards to this appointment. Vote Republican??? No way, no how, no more "McCrooks".
How do you know for a FACT that she never got vetted?
A bunch of prominent Alaska Republicans are saying in the press that nobody they know was contacted by the McCain campaign to inquire about Palin, which is why they were so shocked at the pick.
A bunch of prominent Alaska Republicans are saying in the press that nobody they know was contacted by the McCain campaign to inquire about Palin, which is why they were so shocked at the pick.
Names and links. That's how we're supposed to do things around here. Otherwise you're just living up to your "glistening" reputation as a rumor monger. You're the one who "begged the question," so it's up to you to validate your claim. Or are you just following in Dan Rather's and Mary Mapes' footsteps, i.e. prove that your claim is false otherwise assume it's true?
Last time I checked, background checks don't have to go through "a bunch of prominent Alaska Republicans."
Heck, her own staff didn't know she was being selected until Friday.
I'm not going to jump through hoops for you, dude. I may compose a weblog post about the lack of vetting later, but in the meantime Google News is your friend.
Yea, heck, if the 'Alaskan republicans' say she wasn't vetted. It must be true!
Ahahahahhahaha.....Unreal
How dumb can you get?
You gotta love Obama's "new politics" -- it's so uplifting!
Great sourcing on this 'hard hitting' piece of journalism. I'm sure your profeesors would be proud.
I thought liberals were for empowering women, not calling them lying whores with bad judgement.
What a shocking turn of events. pfffffftttttt
Last time I checked, background checks don't have to go through "a bunch of prominent Alaska Republicans."
When the person being checked is Alaska's Republican governor, how could they not? What kind of vetting wouldn't include sending people to Alaska to talk up Republicans and make sure that Palin didn't have any skeletons in her closet that could embarrass McCain?
McCain knew exactly what he was doing and it worked perfectly.
He knocked the 'choosen one' right of the front page and ruined Hussein's big adventure.
More slanders and lies to come.
I figured out where the hot blast of anger is coming from. We've been invaded by Malkinites.
Chad,
Talk about an unbiased and well informed blog comment. Hearty applause from someone who considers themselves to have a good head screwed on their shoulders as well. Keep up the good work. Grassroots can make this happen! Let's go McCain! Let's win over all those simpleton women with our VP candidate. Women relate to women, it's as simple as that. This is the ticket for the 21 century! November here we come!
NOW WAIT A MINUTE. Kos says this is not Sarahs baby, that Sarah was not pregnant!! Please make up your minds as to which fantasy you are going to sucker into, tools. LEFTIE MOTTO: EEEK EEEEK truth EEEKKK truth run and hide run and hide.
Tell me what makes lefties, all lefties, too weak to cope with reality?? Why all the fantasies?? Whats the bip dips?
I realize you can only repeat what you are told to repeat, but maybe you should try to think for yourself, its not all that hard.
I bet it was Darth Cheney under building 7.
Hahahahahaha,.......I love it, the lefties are collapsing under the weight of their own hatred.
Colmes sold you out Rogers, and think of all that great work we did together on the old Alan Colmes threads at the Retort.
Roger,
Let me say that you are scraping the gutter with this whole post.
Instead of talking about policy, we are talking about the birth of her youngest son in a manner which has absolutely no bearing on government decisions. None, zip, nadda.
The only thing it does is try to frame Palin as someone she isnt and at worst, spread lies.
Let me enlighten you a little bit here about premature children and water breakage.
Without getting into too much personal detail, lets just say I am experienced in this matter and to be blunt, it doesnt take a PHD to figure elements of this out.
When a woman's water breaks the baby is coming. No ifs ands or buts.
Should Palin have went to the hospital? In my view it would have been prudent - but you know - none of us know her body and she did apparently talk to a physician.
It should also be noted that she had to be induced. That should tell you something.
In the end there were no complications, where there? That should be good enough, but of course it isnt because you want to make something up that aint there.
I do appreciate your post in one way, though. It defeats one of the other smears and lies which Democrats are trying to promote - that the child was her eldest daughters.
For making the case that the child was indeed hers, I appreciate.
It is not necessarily true that premature "water breaking" always involves immediate medical attention. I had my water break (at 34 weeks on a Monday evening). I called the doctor. He said wait to see if I went into labor. He set up an appointment for me to see him the following day if I didn't go into labor between Monday evening and the appointment the next day. It was a while ago that I had this happen, but I am under the impression they may give it up to 24 hours to see what happens before inducing.
This is it? This is the best that the libs can come up with on this candidate?! Oh my gosh, they are befuddled and will be runnin' scared from here on out. Kudos to the con strategist who pulled her name up. Can you even imagine the acidic spewings that lib journalists would be making if this pregnancy stuff was being said about Michelle instead?
Libs have once again placed priority on symbolism over substance and they are beginning to notice that their man is mostly an empty shirt with nothing more than the right color and classic rhetoric. One last thing...why do they keep comparing Sarah to Barack when the latter is running against John?! They got nuthin'...lol.
Have been encountering rumors all over the Internet about Trig Palin and the possibility that his mother might not be Sarah Palin, but might in reality be Sarah's daughter, Bristol.
This is a weird but intriguing notion, especially when one reads the various "theories" and "facts" involved. Either Sarah Palin is the mother, or her daughter is the mother. They cannot both be the physical mother of the child, which is almost the impression one gets in reading some of the theories--especially those involving the breaking of the water and subsequent flight back to Alaska, where the child was born.
The daughter apparently stopped going to school in December--at the four-month mark--which is also around the time that Sarah learned the child had Down Syndrome. It is conceivable (pardon the pun!) that Sarah's reaction (had the Doctor tell her the news on the phone, then researched Down Syndrome) was to the news that her DAUGHTER's child had Down Syndrome.
So far, either Sarah or the daughter *COULD BE* the mother.
There's just ONE thing that does not add up:
Everyone says Sarah did NOT look like she was pregnant, even late in the pregnancy. And some online photos DEFINITELY show the daughter with a rather protruding belly and rather "blossoming" breasts!
The MYSTERY: *WHY* would Sarah Palin, if she was trying to cover up her daughter's pregnancy, permit the girl to be photographed in the way that she was? and WHY would those photos be posted on the Internet!? Was Sarah UNAWARE of the photos? Did she not notice the girl's abdomen and breasts appear swollen? Is the girl simply a "Rubenesque" figure?!
It does not make sense that Sarah, if she's trying to "hide" the girl's pregnancy and claim the child as hers, would allow such photos to be circulated as they have been.
So this whole story does not make sense... UNLESS Sarah Palin is an outright fool, in addition to being a liar. She seems smarter than that.
WHAT is the truth? WHICH is the mother?
Further, it is VERY hard to believe that the TRUTH would not come out, by way of "an anonymous source" from the hospital or medical team that assisted in the birth of Trig, *IF* the mother were really Bristol Palin instead of Sarah! It is too far-fetched to think that any cover-up would extend to include hospital and medical personnel!
So this story just does not seem to make sense. Hope someone can determine what is the truth; there is just too much innuendo and confusion going on in BOTH candidates' campaigns this election!
It is utterly appalling that seemingly normal people would stoop to this kind of nonsense: who is the mother, was the child neglected during birth, was this an attempt at a "fundamentalist abortion," etc., etc. Next thing ya know, you idiots will toss out the idea that Sarah Palin is actually a robotic android created in a secret Republican laboratory, or maybe that she is actually an alien being from some distant star system. Or, how about she is actually the Bride of Chuckie and was pregnant with his abhorrent spawn.
I am shocked and sickened by every empty-headed lowlife who has contributed to this foul attempt at character and moral assassination. Sarah Palin deserves better than this.
foflmao Which Is It?
If someone told you Mars was made out of buttermilk would you believe that too???
The baby is Sarahs 5th child.
Re: "Several well-respected physicians spoke with my physician husband on different occasions and came up with the same conclusion: she was trying to kill the baby." ...
Lovely that you bunch of folks who have one fact to go on have, in your great wisdom, (because, after all, you do have advanced degrees and docorates), decided you could read someone's mind. NO wonder you like your all-senators-all-the-time ticket.
Gee, couldn't be that Sarah Palin felt a deep commitment to serve her state's people at this Governor's meeting, and, after giving birth four other times, KNOWING HER OWN BODY, and talking to her doctor believed it would be OK to fly.
By the way, I saw that Obama wasn't wearing his lapel pin again. And so I talked with a few folks about that. And, you'll be glad to hear that we now know that this William Ayers loving, Tony Rezko dealing, Jeremiah Wright 20-year-church-going, self-described "citizen of the world," possibly Kenya-born, Islamic-world educated Hitler temple recreating, amazing public speaker is planning to start lining WWII veterans up and shooting them on the capital mall, starting at 3 a.m. Jan. 23, 2009.
Sad when my scenario arguably has more merit than yours.
Thing is, I didn't even dislike Obama that much...that is, until his campaign started its absolutely VILE attack on this hard-working mother of five, a fighter who has a proven record of change and ethics reform despite the utterly ingrained Ol' Boys Network of her state.
Tarnishing her reputation? No, you're just resetting the bar on how low liberals and the lib media will go to win an election, even if they have to drag our country into moral ruin to do it.
If you guys are having so much trouble digging up dirt on Palin, here's a tidbit you might be able to use: She loves America and believes its the best country in the whole, entire world. How ghastly!
As a mother who worked up till the day of her delivery (by the way a mother whose water broke and then also had to be induced) I am so offended by your lousy reporting and the moral indecency exibited here that I'm freakin' going to McCain Palin site right now and buying a bunch of yard signs, car stickers...you name it!
Rogers "merited scrutiny"...which translates to: "I saw an opportunity to attack this woman." It's hack partisan stuff created to help inflate your own ego as a supposed "journalistic crusader." Also love the way you use "heartbeat away"--nice that you've read the liberal talking points on how to attack Palin.
America is fast becoming the joke of the world. How we ever became the number one nation and leader of the free world is amazing. Especially if you consider the amount of morons we have living here.
here is a photo showing it was actually sarah's daughter who was pregnant-she is just not telling anyone it is not hers. she did not announce to her office staff that she "said" she was pregnant until 7 months and you cannot find anyone who said she looked pregnant. gotta love a vp who lies from the gate.
here is link to photo: img802.mytextgraphics.com:80
Someone called it a "Fundamentalist Abortion" my first reaction was "Republican Abortion" In addition to the Texas episode, she waited until she was 7 months pregnant to announce to her staff and the press, my theory is she had been waiting for a "spontaneous event"
this is the best you can do?
Reading these comments, it would seem that the baby was magically transported from Gov. Palin's daughter to Palin herself just in time for Palin's water to break. I find that rather hard to believe. The set of comments, taken as a whole, leaves me questioning the sanity of most of those commenting.
When the person being checked is Alaska's Republican governor, how could they not? What kind of vetting wouldn't include sending people to Alaska to talk up Republicans and make sure that Palin didn't have any skeletons in her closet that could embarrass McCain?
That's very weak. Argument by question is also logically flawed. I thought you had actual proof that she wasn't vetted. Now that I know that you were using proof by assertion without any real evidence, I can also assume that your entire article is nothing but a red herring.
For all you Truther Wannabes out there who think Palin's baby is actually her daughter, consider this article complete with photo.
alaskareport.com
Edit - the above should read "her daughter's."
As a mother of a 2 y.o. with Down Syndrome ... I find it appauling that she would leave him to go on a campaign trail! His first year will be filled with therapy and early intervention ... .He will need his mother! My son is doing incredibly well....mainly because we worked with him daily strengthening his muscle tone. My husband and I scaled back our careers to make sure he had the best start on life. I too was diagnosed prenatally... once this happens your pregnancy is automatically considered high risk...which involves seeing a specialist every 2 weeks...once you become 28 weeks (7 months).... And her OB would try to have her deliver before 35 weeks at all costs!
And btw....when I was almost 6 months pregnant...I was seriously questioned by a ticket agent about how far along I was...before they would let me fly.
Oh congratulations Cadenhead, apparently Alan has scrubbed his site of the article you posted. I guess he realizes what a total donkey's rear end he looks like thanks to his trust in you.
Well done.
That's funny, David. Twenty minutes ago you were lecturing me on "proof by assertion" and now you're completely comfortable reading Alan Colmes' mind. I'll try to post this Monday or Tuesday on why I don't think McCain's campaign properly vetted Palin.
Sorry...that should have read "would not"
And her OB would not try to have her deliver before 35 weeks at all costs!
That's funny, David. Twenty minutes ago you were lecturing me on "proof by assertion" and now you're completely comfortable reading Alan Colmes' mind. I'll try to post this Monday or Tuesday on why I don't think McCain's campaign properly vetted Palin.
And I'm sure it will be loaded with facts. /sarc
Don't go to too much trouble, as I'm sure Alan won't link to it (for fear of being burned again), which also means the "Malkinites," as you call us, won't hear about it. In short, your blog will be back to its gross anonymity as usual.
The links some people will go to to attack a political enemy are shocking. Shame on you. So much for debating the "issues".
Embarrassed here, folks. Those to talk about what that photo "proves" should have to pay for that young woman's therapy and resulting eating disorder. As someone who lost a dear friend in college because she starved herself and never believed herself "thin enough" I want to fatten the lip of the people in my party who are going after this young woman.
That photo is from 2006.
I'll say it again.
2006.
Look at this page:
www.adn.com
Then look at that caption. Look at the slide that follows it. OCTOBER 2006.
Please, stop this. Please. Its going to be used to paint progressives as the most hateful monsters... please, just stop.
From a comment above:
"As a medical professional who lives in Anchorage, I can safely assure you that this situation did in fact occur, and was reported in the April 22, 2008 Anchorage Daily News (www.ADN.com)...
Several well-respected physicians spoke with my physician husband on different occasions and came up with the same conclusion: she was trying to kill the baby. No other reasonable explanation could be derived from this act of shear stupidity and shameless self-promotion. A Down's child would forever be a burden to her; many have already criticized her insatiable need for a national level political position over the necessity of raising a special needs child."
Does a bed pan cleaner qualify as a "medical professional"? I seriously doubt this poster has any connection to the medical community, not counting the physicians she sees for her delusions.
This is the kind of vile contemtible crap that reveals the abdject hatred coming from liberals. Obama himself declared families "off limits", but that apparently applies only to his family and not his opposition. I very much doubt the left wants anyone delving into Michelle Obama's past, or opening up their daughters to public ridicule and scrutiny. But you would do well to remember that both the goose and gander are subject ot the same treatment.
For me, this is the bottom line:
Because of his advanced age, there is a very real chance that McCain could be stricken by a disabling medical condition or, God forbid, even die in office.
Who would then be commander in chief and in charge of national security? A totally unknown and untested political rookie, a young woman who was selected by the president, not by anyone's vote.
It's utter insanity. And as dangerous as it gets.
that polartrec.com article was from someone who googled Palin and learned she was pregnant and simply included that in her story. By the layers of clothing one couldn't conclude anything by the posted image.
Do you really think that this family believes they could pass off their daughter's pregnancy as the mothers? Doesn't the daughter have friends who would tell? Something this big would have to get out.
Another liberal cock bag.
Rogers scratches head, "What kind of vetting wouldn't include sending people to Alaska to talk up Republicans and make sure that Palin didn't have any skeletons in her closet that could embarrass McCain?"
National Agency check, which includes all local, state and federal law enforcement, and all intelligence agencies; e.g., CIA, DIA, NSA, NSC, etc.
If she has skeletons, these agencies know, otherwise it is hearsay, and fully expected from the muckraking socialists who call themselves "Progressive Democrats".
Meanwhile, out of the other collective mouth, in the other collective face, they whine about "Negative Politics", like the scurrilous hypocrites they inveterately happen to be!
Cadenhead, why don't you get your facts straight. You wrote:
Palin was attending an energy conference in Texas on April 18 when her water broke four weeks before her due date
The article YOU POSTED says:
Palin said she felt fine but had leaked amniotic fluid
So, where is your proof her 'water broke'?
I had heard about this "son or grandson" rumor. I was prepared to pass it off as just mudslinging when I did read the April 27 blog by the woman who flew with Palin back to Alaska after she gave the speech when her water broke. All that was said was that Palin was pregnant and flying with her younger daughter. The photos of Palin show her bundled up, so she could have been pregnant or simply said she was pregnant. No clear evidence there.
It's interesting what the blogger did NOT say - that Palin was in labor and ready to give birth. I've been pregnant and had my water break over a day before giving birth. Maybe I'm atypical, but I went into labor right away, and there is no way I would have just been hanging around an airport and taking long flights after this happened. I was grunting and eventually screaming for drugs!
After reading the blog that supposedly put the rumors to rest, I'm now more convinced that they may have some credibility. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Palin made a "choice" as a woman. Either that, or she acted in a perfectly legal way to protect the reputation and future of her daughter - in my estimation, making her the perfect mother and guardian of her family.
The lying Left must raise some sort of strawman to knock down to try and discredit her, even if it is for some act that they would do themselves - like purposefully abort their viable child, or try and protect the reputation of themselves or a family member. Indeed, they do so try to protect their *impersonal* reputation by lying their heads off about a member of their own party!
The Progressive Democrats are the distributors of dehumanization, because the ends-justify-the-means to these socialist, goose-stepping party members.
Now, Palin is the neo-Juden of choice for their glassily transparent attacks from their verbal batons. This is so representative of party fascism, and which they will evolve into national fascism (national socialism) when they take power.
You saw it yourselves ... with white columns in the background, perfectly lighted, just off-center view to add that 'mystical' quality, and the socialist's pick of candidate jerking his head back-and-forth in apparent strength, as he read from the teleprompter, projecting his voice, gesticulating with practiced timing, and failing to look at the camera (the nation) even once .... or even the crowd ...
Anyone, any mayor, any governor, any military officer for that matter, has more leadership experience than Obama! Of course, the Progressives must defame her and hope their constant/rote efforts can misdirect that she is already 4 years more qualified than the socialist's pick of a stuffed-shirt-know-nothing, but (what did Biden and Carter say?) .... he is clean (Biden) black boy (Carter).
You creeps have really done it to yourselves this time!
Anapsid:
Reading is fundamental.
You're so ready to smear in our progressive name that you didn't even read it.
Or you simply are too enamored with the idea of a juicy scandal to exercise your wits.
Let me spell it out for you:
She (the blogger) bumped into Palin on a flight in MARCH of 2008 between AK and LA.
She described Palin as pregnant. Now I suppose that it could be an elaborate pregnant suit, but I'll get to that in a moment.
The baby was born in APRIL. The flight she took after leaking amnio fluid was in APRIL.
The were not the same flight. Of course this woman would not (gasp!) describe Palin as being in labor when she met her a month before, you know, she was in labor.
You guys are killing me here. We're supposed to be the smart ones, remember?
Here's why I'll never buy the pregnancy nonsense:
The two younger daughters. Both brought out to campaign events and accessible to the press. You guys ever hear about how kids say the damndest things? You think that little one isn't going to slip if its her sister instead of her mom that was pregnant? You think a mom could convince her own children with a preggo suit or outfit?
This weekend is descending into pure embarrassment for the progressive cause. We are truly our own worst enemy. The most inspirational, dynamic and "real" ticket we've had in forever, and we want to argue about innuendo. Geez.
I for don't believe for one moment that Gov Palin had a baby. I believe in coincidences, but this is a bit much:
1. When I saw her family being introduced Friday by John McCaine, I thought my god she looks great to just have had a baby. Then I saw her oldest daughter; who looks as if she just had a baby--the glow that only a mother has after having a baby. Then I looked for a picture of the family from the previous year and I found a YouTube commercial of the Gov and her family. Her oldest daughter was fit and trim--no baby glow.
2. Wanting to know more about Palin, I heard how strong she was to deliver a speech while in labor. After giving the speech she got on the plane home. Having had 4 children previously, we're expected to believe that after her water broke that morning, she gave a speech and took a 12 to 13 hour flight home. She was willing to take a risk that she would not give birth on the plane? Risk a baby that already had special needs and put him in more danger? Not only that, I thought 2nd, 3rd and 4th babies delivered quickly--not 24 to 36 hours after going into labor.
3. Coincidence her daughter was out of school for 5 months because she was sick with a bad case of mono? I would expect her daughter to be very thin if she's been so sick she can't go to school but seems not to have lost her appetite?
A blog entry is not proof. She started saying she was pregnant in March. There is no mention of her preganacy before that. There is more evidence to support the rumor than there is evidence to refute it.
See? It doesn't matter that this issue is made up in order to revile and dehumanize for party over truth.
Notice the medical expertise from the Progressives? They only acknowledge that when your water breaks, you are going into labor. Any recognition that it may take a day or more is completely ignored, like the blinkered donkeys they just happen to be. Ancedotal evidence whizzes right past their collective-head-in-the-sand attitudes.
They insist that either Palin endangered her child, tried a 'natural' abortion, or tried to protect her daughter's reputation ... something normal human beings do ... even Progressive Democrats. However, when a Progressive Democrat practices infanticide, it is perfectly okay, and at worst for the 'best'. Millions of Progressives lie through their collective teeth in defending the reputation of their party members - NO MATTER HOW EVIL THE PRACTICE (Studds' pedophilia and Franks' male prostitution ring)!
If you happen to be a Republican (the Progressive's neo-Juden) though, you can be reviled and dehumanized for something they, themselves, would do without a thought!
Two-faced, lying hypocrites is what the term "Progressive Democrat" has come to mean ...
I experienced a slow leak of amniotic fluid during the birth of my first child. (It was two weeks before my due date.) I called my OB/GYN, and she indicated that I should come to the hospital. I did so, and after verifying that I was, in fact, leaking amniotic fluid, and performing stress testing on the baby, my practitioner and I discussed the options, and she allowed me to wait and see if labor would naturally progress, rather than immediately inducing labor. I did a lot of walking to try to get the labor to progress over that first day. The next day, I again went in for stress-testing on the baby, and consulted again with my OB/GYN. Labor was still not progressing, but the baby was not under any duress, so I opted to have a cervical ripening gel applied, but no induction. Another day, and more walking later, I went into the hospital again for stress monitoring. Still the baby was fine, but labor was not progressing. I opted to induce labor the following morning via pitocin. It was a full THREE days after I began leaking fluid before my son was born.
If it is a slow leak of amniotic fluid, and the baby is nearly full term, the main risk that is run to the baby is infection. I do not consider my actions reckless in not inducing labor immediately. I felt comfortable that my son was being monitored, and I feel I made the right choice in giving nature time to take its course. Even though I eventually induced labor, never did I feel that my son was put at risk by my reticence to induce labor immediately. My son was and is the perfect picture of health. I delivered him vaginally with no epidural. My OB/GYN conjectured that the tear in my sac was high and small, so I did not feel at all like I was in labor. My contractions were there, but VERY weak. I was as comfortable as any 8 1/2 month pregnant woman could be.
If Sarah Palin experienced a similar phenomenon, I could see how she could travel. I don't think anyone can speak to her experience unless they have been there. I was in a similar place, and even though it was surreal, I can say from first-hand experience that one does not necessarily experience full-blown labor just because one is leaking amniotic fluid.
Those so-called conservatives (probably Pawlenty and Romney sore losers) should just leave Governor Palin alone.
It's her body, her choice, and Governor Palin should be able to risk complications, miscarriage, or whatever, and fly back to the private home in Alaska that she paid for is she wants to.
I for one think it is admirable how Governor Palin doesn't let social tradition prevent her from leaving her 4-month-old special needs child in the hands of others while she runs off to pursue an ambitious (albeit symbolic) career in politics.
And so what? Even if the Governor's suprise third-term pregnancy was really cover for the pregnancy of her eldest daughter, that's really cool the way she could put her whole career at risk like that, all in the name of family devotion.
If the Governor had been a Democrat, she probably would have made the state pay for her delivery at a public hospital--and put her daughter on the pill, which is a sin of course, and leads to promiscuity.
The comments from the Washington Times Commentor makes no sense. Palin stated she was not in labor and the Commentor used the fact that she was hospitalized and induced to prove that she was. The induction is what started the labor...some people will use shoddy quotes/comments to try to make their point. As is the case here.
Mea culpa - it was two different flights, and I should have read it better. The April 27 blog entry by the Alaskan woman is meaningless, and really doesn't belong as an Update at all. Sandy and C.O. above said it better than I did.
I stand by the rest of what I said in my post, especially the part about being in labor and sitting on a plane for many hours. That's just too weird.
At best you have someone who is guilty of impulsive behavior and incredibly poor judgment by flying while in labor. This doesn't translate well into qualities I would like to see in a VP. We've seen what 8 years of impulsive action have done to this country.
At worst you have someone who:
1. according to others on this blog, purposely took the plane flight while in labor because she wanted her baby to be born dead. (I have my doubts about this one, but if it's true, it sure doesn't make her prime VP material)
2. OR is faking the whole thing, and this is, indeed, her grandson. Major can of worms there.
One of these three possibilities IS correct. All disqualify Palin as a reasonable VP choice. McCain could have done better, and should have done better.
They have scrubbed all internet photos to support the contention that Sarah was pregnant all along. How's about a DNA test?
I for one an not a leftie. I still want to know did Sarah Palin lie and pretend to be pregnant to cover up the birth of Bristol's baby, Trig?
It seems that it is the extreme right that is blowing this out of proportion.
I think that there is lots more about this governor that we just don't know. She should have been vetted.
"How's about a DNA test?"
I'll bet you that if your Progressives could demand such an invasion of privacy, that your party-uber-alles would ... you are exactly that kind of goosestepping fascists in your desire for socialism, and who would force such a test for discovering a hidden neo-Juden.
That's the kind of backstabbing, lying mob your collective happens to be ...
So, there's only two possibilities.
Either she put herself and her child at risk by not being examined before flying back. Not to mention, airlines don't like you to fly when you're near term, because they don't want the risk of delivering a baby at 35k feet. That was stupid. Also I'm annoyed at her husband's response that the kid shouldn't be born in Texas because "You can't have a fish picker from Texas." First of all, I think most Texans will be annoyed with that comment. Secondly, it's a special needs child, and THAT takes precedence over it's safety? And these clowns think liberals who have abortions at 4 to 12 weeks are monsters? What about putting a near term child at risk? MORONS.
The other option is that she covered for her daughter to keep up their "reputation." How very Republican of them.
Whatever.
You know what cinched it for me. What kind of mother would want her son in an endless war for oil? Her son is in the military and she was recorded as saying since her son was in the military the best choice for commander-in-chief was McCain. Yeah, McCain-I-want-an-endless-war-
for-oil. I think she's a right-wing wacko and anyone who votes for McCain just because there's a woman on the ticket, if they're elected, they get exactly what they deserve for being so bloody stupid. These two politicians want to *revoke* your rights. Not give you rights. They want endless war for oil. They want to destroy our environment and there are people here who are so STUPID they can't even see it, or even worse, they try to justify it. Rights, once lost, are never restored without much tears and bloodshed.
In the meantime, if those two are elected, I'm looking into moving to Europe. I hear the Spanish Mediterranean coast is nice this time of year.
I suggest someone get a dictionary and look up the definition of fascism and socialism. They're not even the same thing by a long shot. They're only at opposite ends of the political spectrum. The current administration is approaching fascism, which is not socialism. As I was saying, too many stupid people in the world.
It is hard to really understand why people think thoughts or say things that are so hurtful to so many - or even themselves. Both sides are taking risks in running this race and deserve a fair evaluation. Lets focus on the issues at hand and diligently follow our values when we 'pull the lever' rather than wasting energy trashing the candidates and each other. It is a good thing to have debate and interaction, but for goodness sake - treat everyone with common decency & respect.
My suggestion is we drop back and kneel down and pray hard that whomever is elected to the office of the presidency, is doing what is right by the Lord of all creation and our nation.
Vote in '08.
Tracker gets personal, "I suggest someone get a dictionary and look up the definition of fascism and socialism."
(Rogers cringes ...)
The political orientation of both fascist Italy and The People's National Socialist German Worker's Party (NAZI) meet the definition of socialist nations. Perhaps you should try to understand that fact - a collosal task for a blinkered Equus asinus.
The "fascism" of the Progressives is in exhalting party over nation, and as the National Socialists did in Germany; along with presenting a universal image to hate and revile, and as Progressives are attempting in making Republicans, and all they stand for, into the neo-Juden the collective raises as the target, a replacement for the racism of fascism.
"They're not even the same thing by a long shot. They're only at opposite ends of the political spectrum. The current administration is approaching fascism, which is not socialism. As I was saying, too many stupid people in the world."
It doesn't matter what explanation I present to the likes of you or your ilk, it will be completely ignored because that is the modus operandi of the ostrich party known as Progressives. It goes to illustrate what their kind mean when they say, or use the term "democracy": if you agree with the collective, you are correct, if you disagree, you are stupid, evil, warmonger, torturer, an idiot, in need of medication, insane, and any other adjective that can be used, in the never ending litany of hate and personal attacks.
Fascism was practice by socialist nations, and the Progressive Democrats are promoting a socialist nation where the federal government controls the means of production and dictates what that production will be, what, where and when ...
There is no cooperation, no real democracy, as Progressives defy the rules of government and refuse to vote on nomination of federal judges and refuse to allow normal conduct of government by blocking legitimate changes to Federal Prosecutors ...
You all agree with those practices against the legitimate conduct of government ... Progressives are a goosestepping mob, wielding their batons of defamation, and breaking the legitimate rules of government and conduct into a million shards of useless glass ...
Not exactly fascists, yet, but practicing the tactics of fascism to establish a socialism in the USA to satisfy your greed and cupidity.
Shameful conduct, and it is going to become more and more recognized for what is ... no matter how much you try and turn me into the subject ... loser ...
The mindless haters at the Retort have followed your lead on this one Rogers, the Retort has now become the place of record for slander and hate for Sarah Palin. A women who by all accounts has lead a wonderful life, served her fellow citizens, and stood up to corruption within her own party.
You are responsible for every hateful and slanderous lie posted, this is your doing.
I hope you're proud.
"Not exactly fascists, yet, but practicing the tactics of fascism ..."
No, I take that back, and since the Democratic Party, calling themselves "Progressives", is equivalent to the National Socialist German Worker's Party before turning their nation into "Nazi Germany".
Fascists, in fact, even before they practiced their national fascism ... live with it hatemongers ...
"I hope you're proud."
Rogers has a successful thread, Rex, and that's the bottom of the line for most of the ends-justify-the-means sociopaths, even if not successful politically.
You know ... perhaps if he had taken the opportunity to acknowledge some of the irrefutable reasoning presented?
Nah! What was I thinking ... Rogers is nothing if not a yellow-dog-stooge and literally cannot do any such bipartisan agreement. That's the same with all of the goosestepping collective ... they must raise their collective arm in virtual unison in support of party over truth, nation, reality, etc., ad nauseam ...
You can't discuss reasonably with those of faith; specially political 'faith' ... team over nation is their rule and socialism is their god.
He's not a sociopath Tad, he just stepped in it big time but can't acknowledge what a stupid move he made in throwing out slander, lies, and false innuendo as fact. Beleive it or not, I can be pretty tough on politicans on the other side of the aisle, but I use facts, not contrived opinion and slander.
This is the kind of filth poitics that will backfire big time on the hard left. 25-50 year old women are going to decide this election and when they see this kind of trash, Sarah Palin becomes their hero.
I'm praying that Olberfilth pick this up next week and runs with his ususal gutter rat slime 'analysis'.
Hussein will have go back to community organizing and Biden can slide into drunken anonymity again.
And over at the Retort it is open season to trash, slander, revile in the most disgusting ways, a women none of them had heard of a week ago. They follow the lead of the piped piper and now it's a free for all of unbridled hate.
I'm sure no subject will be untouched, her judgement, her sex, her children. (I guess it's open season on Obamas children too now?) All fodder for demented, evil, haters..... but they got a free pass from Rogers to spew what ever kind of hate they wish.
Gotta love the left, they talk out of one side of their mouths and spew disgusting vomit out the other. Make sure and check the 'Palin hate' thread count. Especially the vile scum on the user blog page.
Because of his advanced age, there is a very real chance that McCain could be stricken by a disabling medical condition or, God forbid, even die in office.
Who would then be commander in chief and in charge of national security? A totally unknown and untested political rookie, a young woman who was selected by the president, not by anyone's vote.
It's utter insanity. And as dangerous as it gets.
mediawatch | 2008-08-31 11:57 AM | link
1) 72 (as of friday) is NOT advanced age anymore.
2) Palin has MANY more years administrative experience than Obama who has ZERO years administrative experience.
3) Palin is running as VICE PRESIDENTIAL candiate, with LITTLE chance of becoming president.
4) Obama,whith 0 adminastrative experience, is running as a PRESIDENTIAL canidate (100% chance of becoming president) if elected.
Get it now?
Leftie logic: the words were strung together, they make no sense, they conterdict reason,.............THEREFORE they are true!!!!!! WHOOP DE DOO lefties are smart!
REX, 4:58
They follow the lead of the piped piper and now it's a free for all of unbridled hate.
How true that statement is. Repeat, repeat repeat. The less sense it makes the more illocigal it is the more it is repeated.
These are very stupid people who cannot think for themselves. The repeat what someone tells them to say for two reasons.
1) they think the person telling them what to say is wise.
2) they think that by repeating what the wiseperson told them to say they will look wise to others.
What they do not understand:
1) the person telling them what to say is either stupid, or a propagandist.
2) the repeaters are being horribly tooled by the propagandist for the propagandists own reasons (normally money, somtime false fame)
2) when the repeaters (blind followers) repeat this foolishness they look as stupid and ignorant as they truly are.
Somtimes I feel pity for the stupid (unable to selfthink) and ingornant (total lack of knowledge) repeaters.
Regarding the April 27th blog entry by the woman claiming to have seen Palin pregnant -- her blog post says along the top "27 April 2008, Sunday Meeting the Governor on a Commercial Flight."
The baby was born April 18th. Nowhere in this blog post does it mention the date of the flight the poster shared with Palin. If it was indeed April 27 then Palin had already given birth.
Something's not right about this supposed piece of evidence supporting Palin's story.
Mr. Cadenhead, you make me ashamed to be in Florida. Thank God you're in Jacksonville.
I haven't been here before, but I have seen the screed at the Retort. You'll not be getting traffic from me though I did cross post your article over at Liberaland so that Alan Colmes nutters can see what passes for political commentary by his standard.
Enjoy your 15 seconds, and I'll be seeing you at the polls.
As a medical professional who lives in Anchorage, I can safely assure you that this situation did in fact occur, and was reported in the April 22, 2008 Anchorage Daily News (www.ADN.com).
The medical community here in Anchorage was horrified of the news of this "heroic" adventure of Governor Palin. It was an incredibly egregious decision that risked the life of Palin's unborn child. It also set a poor example for others to follow....a public safety issue.
Several well-respected physicians spoke with my physician husband on different occasions and came up with the same conclusion: she was trying to kill the baby. No other reasonable explanation could be derived from this act of shear stupidity and shameless self-promotion. A Down's child would forever be a burden to her; many have already criticized her insatiable need for a national level political position over the necessity of raising a special needs child.
Real Alaskan | 2008-08-30 03:13 PM | link
---so, isn't this in direct opposition to HEPPA laws?
McCain's Ladies: A Disturbing Pattern
Why did McCain really choose Palin. Was it the Quayle factor but in a skirt?
We have all heard about the horrific circumstances under which McCain dumped his first wife. We have all pondered at why McCain would marry some wealthy woman who he considers a cunt and a trollop. And now he appoints some unqualified fox to be his running mate. Looking at his expression during their joint conference today, a coworker of mine laughed and declared, "My God, he wants to fuck her".
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Good Stuff Rogers, elevating political discussion and all that.
Change, hope, and mindless pornographic slander.....It's the new Obama way of doing politics.
It cannot be said too often when it comes to Palin: "The smart liberals are worried. The dumb liberals think they've won."
Eubanks says she was pregnant. How does Eubanks KNOW she was pregnant?? Eubanks' blog entry proves exactly nothing.
There's a lot of smoke here. Fire? We'll probably never know for sure.
McCain's Ladies: A Disturbing Pattern
Why did McCain really choose Palin. Was it the Quayle factor but in a skirt?
We have all heard about the horrific circumstances under which McCain dumped his first wife. We have all pondered at why McCain would marry some wealthy woman who he considers a cunt and a trollop. And now he appoints some unqualified fox to be his running mate. Looking at his expression during their joint conference today, a coworker of mine laughed and declared, "My God, he wants to fuck her".
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Posted by moder8 at 2008-08-29 11:01 PM |
Wow I think you made a typo, you are talking about John Kerry right?
O wait allrsn she might be talking about John Edwards, or maybe Bill Clinton.
So little class playing up such a rumor. Search the internet and you will find her baby bump. So many of you are truly sick
Let me see the baby was her daughter's but it was dangerous for her to be on that flight pregnant. The asylum's doors were not locked this week.
Dear new readers who hate me: If it's OK to discuss Sarah Palin's decision to have the child, why is it off-limits to discuss her decision to fly cross-country while in labor? The Palins discussed the flight with the press, just like they discussed the decision to carry the child after the Down syndrome diagnosis. Are we only allowed to discuss her personal life in admiring terms?
As a Bush-loving Midwestern conservative rube who's praying we can dodge the Obama bullet, I can only say that I really, REALLY hope that you lefties keep up this line of attack.
Really. Best of luck with that!
How good was the Palin pick? Only two days later, and the libs are in near-total meltdown.
The accusations on this post are disgusting! If this is what it takes for Obama to get elected it simply illustrates the desperation of the Dems! Obama is a true lib, and, he speaks like one, i.e., he lies with incredible conviction! Do you dems really want to talk about trooper gate, OK, let's talk about troopergate in Arkansas! You wannna talk about dishonesty in a female public figure, let's talk Hillary! You wanna trash a mom and her 16 year old daughter, go do in your sick liberal think tanks and get this crap offline! This was my first, and last, visit to this site! NoBama, NoHow, NoWay!
